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[Jusme]

Lovely set of wheels ready to go on. Struggled like 'bug*ery to undo the bolts on the first wheel. Had my 18" breaker bar slotted into a 3' metal pole. Done first one. Move to back. Split socket on first bolt, have now bent my speed brace, not an ounce of movement from any bolt. ' What the hell do they gun these up at' Rear tyre is torn and flat as the proverbial.... 'HELP'.. 

[kevinp58]

Have you got any impact sockets if so put a shortish bar on them and use a Hammer to shock it lose.  Try that it should do it.

[Jusme]

Thanks Kevin, problem, short on tools. Suppose I could try hammering with another socket and short extension?? It'll have to wait till morning. Soaking wet and cold.. brrrrrr.

[kevinp58]

Thanks Kevin, problem, short on tools. Suppose I could try hammering with another socket and short extension?? It'll have to wait till morning. Soaking wet and cold.. brrrrrr.

You could try that but watch you don't round the nuts off it would be better if you could get one or a hexagonal socket instead of the usual 12 pointed ones I think Halfrauds should do sockets separately. 

[YZ250]

If I come across tight one's, I use the extending bar with the 17/19mm hex combi socket on. Never let me down yet and cheap enough to buy. It has succeeded easily where my wheel spider has failed, as the socket has a decent wall thickness and the bar gives good leverage. I'd stick with just socket and bar/breaker to avoid any twist on the socket.
I use a torque wrench to tighten mine but you'd be surprised how tight some people do them up.

[I_want_an_Omega]

Hi Rob,

I've just checked before replying.

I have a "proper" hex wheel socket and an extension bar which is a section of scaffold pole. 

More than happy to pop round tomorrow. Am busy in the morning, so will have to be early afternoon if that's ok?

I've also got a trolly-jack.

Thanks - Rob

[Webby the Bear]

Hi Rob,

I've just checked before replying.

I have a "proper" hex wheel socket and an extension bar which is a section of scaffold pole. 

More than happy to pop round tomorrow. Am busy in the morning, so will have to be early afternoon if that's ok?

I've also got a trolly-jack.

Thanks - Rob

OOF spirit rides again 

Re the tightness of the nuts, as already mentioned, use a 6 point socket and don't be afraid to use your girth.......standing on your breaker bar 

They should be nowhere near that tight. Who on Earth did them up that tight? 

[terry paget]

Hi Jusme,
            I find more often than not when I buy a car on e-bay that the wheels will not come off. They have been hammered on by a tyre shop and not been off for several years.

First job is to get the bolts out. I have a compressor, a big impact wrench and a 17mm black impact hexagonal socket. If there any security bolts I replace them with standard bolts. Next job is to get the wheels off, if alloys they are often rusted on. For any such wheels, I put back the bolts, slacken them half a turn, then go for a two mile drive. That heaves them loose. Then home again, wheels off, wire brush and grease the hubs, put back the wheels and bolts, and torque them up to 110Nm. Check spare is roadworthy and inflated, and there is a decent jack with the car. Add an extensible wheel nut lever with 177mm hex socket. Torch can be handy too. Then I can face the first puncture with confidence.

[I_want_an_Omega]

Hi Rob,

I've just checked before replying.

I have a "proper" hex wheel socket and an extension bar which is a section of scaffold pole. 

More than happy to pop round tomorrow. Am busy in the morning, so will have to be early afternoon if that's ok?

I've also got a trolly-jack.

Thanks - Rob

OOF spirit rides again 

Re the tightness of the nuts, as already mentioned, use a 6 point socket and don't be afraid to use your girth.......standing on your breaker bar 

They should be nowhere near that tight. Who on Earth did them up that tight? 

I'm a bit more tubby than Rob is 

[omega3000]

Take car to garage and windy gun them off for a few quid , then tighten them up by hand  Bloody windy guns in the wrong hands 

[Webby the Bear]

Hi Rob,

I've just checked before replying.

I have a "proper" hex wheel socket and an extension bar which is a section of scaffold pole. 

More than happy to pop round tomorrow. Am busy in the morning, so will have to be early afternoon if that's ok?

I've also got a trolly-jack.

Thanks - Rob

OOF spirit rides again 

Re the tightness of the nuts, as already mentioned, use a 6 point socket and don't be afraid to use your girth.......standing on your breaker bar 

They should be nowhere near that tight. Who on Earth did them up that tight? 

I'm a bit more tubby than Rob is 

  Me too mate.... 18.5 stones after Christmas. Grrrr

[Jusme]

Thanks for replies lads, would have shot round to tyre shop EMD.. But! Rear tyre is torn and flat as the proverbial

[kevinp58]

Just a little add when you do get them off put some copper grease on threads abd on the rear of wheels where they mount the hubs.  that will assist when you need to take them off next time. 

[chrisgixer]

Just a little add when you do get them off put some copper grease on threads abd on the rear of wheels where they mount the hubs.  that will assist when you need to take them off next time. 

...and more importantly, on refitting torque them to 110nm. Any tyre shop that just windys up wheel nuts, kick up. Speak to the manager, complain, refuse to use etc.

Windy off fine, windy on loosely, fine, but they should always be torqued correctly to 110nm for the final tighten, and the opposite bolt next, with the locking wheel nut last.

...unless a certain admin distracts you from doing your side to help him do his of course, then forgetting the final torque is absolutely fine.

[martin42]

Hi Jusme,
            I find more often than not when I buy a car on e-bay that the wheels will not come off. They have been hammered on by a tyre shop and not been off for several years.

First job is to get the bolts out. I have a compressor, a big impact wrench and a 17mm black impact hexagonal socket. If there any security bolts I replace them with standard bolts. Next job is to get the wheels off, if alloys they are often rusted on. For any such wheels, I put back the bolts, slacken them half a turn, then go for a two mile drive. That heaves them loose. Then home again, wheels off, wire brush and grease the hubs, put back the wheels and bolts, and torque them up to 110Nm. Check spare is roadworthy and inflated, and there is a decent jack with the car. Add an extensible wheel nut lever with 177mm hex socket. Torch can be handy too. Then I can face the first puncture with confidence.

oppsing hell 177mm hex socket,what size tyre are you changing??