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In need of a diesel
« on: 09 January 2014, 19:16:33 »

Well I think I'm going to have to trade my v6 for a diesel as I'm now going to be traveling from kidsgrove (north staffordshire) to uttoxeter as I have taken on a different store. I'm going to try and find a 2.2 dti omega but I know nothing about them.

Id consider a clean 2.5td as it's mainly dual carriageway work.


Can someone give me a basic run through (reliability, mpg ect) :y

Failing that it will be down the zafira dti or c max route.

(May be in the wrong section)
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Re: In need of a diesel
« Reply #1 on: 09 January 2014, 19:18:26 »

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Re: In need of a diesel
« Reply #2 on: 09 January 2014, 20:16:02 »

  I have a clean 2.5TD Estate here that I am going to offer up shortly. You may find pics in the gallery under my name. Cant post pics my self, got Twiglet and Albitz to do them for me
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Re: In need of a diesel
« Reply #3 on: 09 January 2014, 20:27:51 »

I'll bare that in mind buddy. Need to shift the v6 first :o
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Re: In need of a diesel
« Reply #4 on: 09 January 2014, 20:46:57 »

LPG the V6? If I had to use the 3.2 for commuting, I would pay to have it converted. As I know it, had lots done to it as well.
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Re: In need of a diesel
« Reply #5 on: 09 January 2014, 20:54:02 »

As far as mpg goes, iirc the 2.5td would get about 40 on a run (from old threads) and I can get around 35 ish from my 2.6.
Just make sure it's worth it for you  :y
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Re: In need of a diesel
« Reply #6 on: 09 January 2014, 21:07:31 »

AS much as I liked my old 2.5TD Manual Estate, think if I was to do it all over again it would have to a Manual Chipped 3.0 with LPG.

Averaging 33 t0 38 mpg on a good Petrol run, would equate to (doing the £ numbers game) around 55 to 65 on a LPG run.  :y
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Re: In need of a diesel
« Reply #7 on: 09 January 2014, 22:44:38 »

As far as mpg goes, iirc the 2.5td would get about 40 on a run (from old threads) and I can get around 35 ish from my 2.6.
Just make sure it's worth it for you  :y

Best I get out of my TD auto Estate on a run is about 35. Cruising at 70 plus. And before TB asks, without the vicious fan. :-X
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Re: In need of a diesel
« Reply #8 on: 09 January 2014, 23:00:18 »

If making such a change would be tempted to go the Signum route but make sure you check out the DMF if buying a manual.
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Re: In need of a diesel
« Reply #9 on: 10 January 2014, 09:01:45 »

Has anybody on here had there 3.2 ecu remapped then run it on lpg ?

I know that remapping can give you a little extra grunt / better fuel economy but would you get similar benefits afterwards when running on gas (after the lpg was remapped) ?

Sorry for the slight thread drift  ::)
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Re: In need of a diesel
« Reply #10 on: 10 January 2014, 10:56:29 »

Has anybody on here had there 3.2 ecu remapped then run it on lpg ?

I know that remapping can give you a little extra grunt / better fuel economy but would you get similar benefits afterwards when running on gas (after the lpg was remapped) ?

Sorry for the slight thread drift  ::)
Yep, have a Manual 3.2 Plod Saloon thats had its ECU remapped plus a performance Exhuast, although I've no idea how the LPG ECU is mapped?, just hooked on the end of it as far as I know.

Whilst the Remap on the 3.2 makes the car feel like it has more grunt, in particular when accelerating, cant honestly say it gives much improvement on overall MPG, having said all that Ive always had a Bee in my Bonnet about the poor economy of the 3.2 compared to the earlier 3.0's.

I've played about with a few chips, or mapping if you like, on the 3.0's, to include SuperChips, Courtenay Tunning, some Plod ones plus others, and found overall whilst they seem offer small BHP gains,they do improve drive ability and improve MPG on the car.

Hence my post further up regarding a Chipped 3.0 LPG vs 2.5TD.  ;

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Re: In need of a diesel
« Reply #11 on: 10 January 2014, 11:34:02 »

AS much as I liked my old 2.5TD Manual Estate, think if I was to do it all over again it would have to a Manual Chipped 3.0 with LPG.

Averaging 33 t0 38 mpg on a good Petrol run, would equate to (doing the £ numbers game) around 55 to 65 on a LPG run.  :y

Just to add to Dan's original post re MPG on the 2.5TD's. My Manual Estate TD would do 37 mpg around London, fully loaded with Tools and Crap in the back, and around 44 on a run, with the car completely empty and just my Bum in there I could just about hit the magic 50 MPG if I tried hard enough but soon got bored with that.

If your going down the TD route definitely get a Manual and get it chipped, the Auto's just kill MPG in town, and fit a cruise stalk for the longer journeys.

Would I have another one, probably would if the price, colour and Spec was right, there good Torque pullers when fully loaded, but if I wasn't bothered about loosing some space in the back with a LPG Tank, then it would have to be a chipped 3.0 on Gas.  ;) 

 
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Re: In need of a diesel
« Reply #12 on: 10 January 2014, 17:33:53 »

Has anybody on here had there 3.2 ecu remapped then run it on lpg ?

I know that remapping can give you a little extra grunt / better fuel economy but would you get similar benefits afterwards when running on gas (after the lpg was remapped) ?

Sorry for the slight thread drift  ::)
Yep, have a Manual 3.2 Plod Saloon thats had its ECU remapped plus a performance Exhuast, although I've no idea how the LPG ECU is mapped?, just hooked on the end of it as far as I know.

Whilst the Remap on the 3.2 makes the car feel like it has more grunt, in particular when accelerating, cant honestly say it gives much improvement on overall MPG, having said all that Ive always had a Bee in my Bonnet about the poor economy of the 3.2 compared to the earlier 3.0's.

I've played about with a few chips, or mapping if you like, on the 3.0's, to include SuperChips, Courtenay Tunning, some Plod ones plus others, and found overall whilst they seem offer small BHP gains,they do improve drive ability and improve MPG on the car.

Hence my post further up regarding a Chipped 3.0 LPG vs 2.5TD.  ;


Cheers Chris  :)
This car is a keeper for a long time if I get my way so looking for ways to get more mpg out of the 3.2 (yes I know )  ::) ;D
What sort of price are we looking at to remap a 3.2 ?
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Re: In need of a diesel
« Reply #13 on: 10 January 2014, 19:23:52 »

Cheers Chris  :)
This car is a keeper for a long time if I get my way so looking for ways to get more mpg out of the 3.2 (yes I know )  ::) ;D
What sort of price are we looking at to remap a 3.2 ?

Well, yours being a 3.2 MV6 you might want to consider fitting a Manual Box if your serious about keeping the car, thats going to make the biggest difference on MPG especially when your pottering about.

On the DBW Remapping side, I know a guy locally who messes with Auto ECU for a living, we had a chat recently about this and he is going to have a look at my 3.2 remap and see whats going on in there, when he gets 5 mins spare.

We also had a chat about the possibility of having a switchable remap for economy and power with the possibility of using the throttle position as detecting the changes and maybe using a more economy map when running on LPG.

All above my capabilities Im afraid and early days yet, but might be worth holding back for a while if your thinking of a remap, never know if something comes of it might be better to do a group remap or something to make it all worth while.

Not had a DBW remap done of late, but believe the charges currently in the range of 250 to 400.
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Re: In need of a diesel
« Reply #14 on: 10 January 2014, 20:14:12 »

Cheers Chris  :)
This car is a keeper for a long time if I get my way so looking for ways to get more mpg out of the 3.2 (yes I know )  ::) ;D
What sort of price are we looking at to remap a 3.2 ?

Well, yours being a 3.2 MV6 you might want to consider fitting a Manual Box if your serious about keeping the car, thats going to make the biggest difference on MPG especially when your pottering about.

On the DBW Remapping side, I know a guy locally who messes with Auto ECU for a living, we had a chat recently about this and he is going to have a look at my 3.2 remap and see whats going on in there, when he gets 5 mins spare.

We also had a chat about the possibility of having a switchable remap for economy and power with the possibility of using the throttle position as detecting the changes and maybe using a more economy map when running on LPG.

All above my capabilities Im afraid and early days yet, but might be worth holding back for a while if your thinking of a remap, never know if something comes of it might be better to do a group remap or something to make it all worth while.

Not had a DBW remap done of late, but believe the charges currently in the range of 250 to 400.


Keep us upto date on this please Chris, sounds like a cunning plan  :y

Loved my old 3lt manual estate with the 15 inch wheels and sloppy suspension.
In fact, I drove it a dam sight quicker A to B then this one i'm driving now days  :(

I started making tentative enquires on here last year then the world turned to shite again for me so it went straight out of the window like most things  :'(

All depends on cost and time off the road I suppose  :-\

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