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[GastronomicKleptomaniac]

Not sure on the legalities,but assuming all is well deactivation wise then I would say that as long as it's not on public view and probably as long as it's not within reach of passengers during the transportation process then I would have thought that would be o.k.In other words put it in a box or something and transport it in the boot.As you say though square it with the school first.

I think waving a hand grenade at passers by is one step above one of my favourite games in college... my mate for some reason had a balaclava so if we got bored of a lunchtime, he'd roll it down, then I'd stop and he'd lean out and ask a stranger for directions to the bank... how I never got stopped by armed police I don't know...

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Funny you should ask that!

My youngest brother, like me an historian specializing in 20th century warefare, my father and I once walked the battlefields of the Great War.  Found ordnance galore, but decided to bring back a full clip of .303 British bullets, plus a single one (that I kept) all in "as new condition" thanks to the Belgium mud.  Just brought them back via the ferry, but always wondered what could have happened if they jad been spotted by customs!!  They obviously were not the rusting shells or grenades that we found in bulk, as that would have been stupidly dangerous!  But have never really researched what the law actually says on ordnance transportation, preferring to stay ignorant!

I guess as long as bullets are in good condition and you do not also carry an Enfield .303 rifle, that can be used to fire them, you are fine.  A hand grenade with a pin that could fall apart / fall out, as we found plenty of, must be a different proposition however!!

But you say it is empty, so I cannot see that is a problem and would be classed as "deactivitated" or like a dummy grenade.

We were at the Somme back in the summer and read that they still find something like 90 tons of ordnance a year after almost 100 years

Indeed, some 10 million pieces of ordnance, 10% of all that was fired, is considered to be unexplored under all those fields.  Plus, I always add, large quantities of shell, bullet, and grenade stocks, that we're buried still in their crates during the course of the war when mud covered all as incoming rounds exploded. Whole lines of men were also buried this way of course, and from time to time they are found surrounded by their equipment.

[the alarming man]

I think you will find waving anything like that around in public will end badly..as you might not be aware but plod country wide still as a shot to kill policy for anyone suspected to be engaged in a terrorist incident..i.e waving a live/decommissioned grenade around i think will come under the terrorist incident banner

[Shackeng]

Funny you should ask that!

My youngest brother, like me an historian specializing in 20th century warefare, my father and I once walked the battlefields of the Great War.  Found ordnance galore, but decided to bring back a full clip of .303 British bullets, plus a single one (that I kept) all in "as new condition" thanks to the Belgium mud.  Just brought them back via the ferry, but always wondered what could have happened if they jad been spotted by customs!!  They obviously were not the rusting shells or grenades that we found in bulk, as that would have been stupidly dangerous!  But have never really researched what the law actually says on ordnance transportation, preferring to stay ignorant!

I guess as long as bullets are in good condition and you do not also carry an Enfield .303 rifle, that can be used to fire them, you are fine.  A hand grenade with a pin that could fall apart / fall out, as we found plenty of, must be a different proposition however!!

But you say it is empty, so I cannot see that is a problem and would be classed as "deactivitated" or like a dummy grenade.

I think not Kate, a firearms certificate, (or possibly a collector's license), is required for you to have live ammo in your posession.

[omega2018]

hope its not a zero zero grenade:

"The Zero-Zero Handgrenade incident took place at approximately midnight on 15/26 June 1985. It was the culmination of an operation carried out by members of the Security Branch of the South African Police, including members of the C10 Unit (Vlakplaas) and members of the East Rand Division. The operation was the idea of and formulated by Johannes Velde van der Merwe (the 7th Applicant) who was then second in charge of the Security Branch. Approval for the execution of the operation was given by Louis Le Grange, the Minister of Police.

The operation entailed the infiltration of the Congress of South African Students (COSAS) members on the East Rand, providing them with handgrenades and a limpet mine of which the timing devices had been reduced to zero seconds and enticing them to use such explosive devices simultaneously. The operation resulted in the death of eight people and seven people being seriously injured....

They decided that their targets would be symbolic in nature. They decided on the deserted burnt out houses of Stephen and David Nomani, two persons who were suspected of being collaborators and who had been driven out of the area. The next night he and the other members of his group who were still prepared to participate each received a handgrenade from Mamasela and the 2nd Applicant. He was surprised to learn that Congress Mtsweni was going to target an electrical substation with a limpet mine. The witness then proceeded with his group to the house of Steve Nomani. His group consisted of himself, Samuel Lekatsa, Humphrey Tshabalala and Osborne Dlamini. At the house they performed the drill that they had been trained by "Mike" and "James". The witness counted one and they all held the lever of their handgrenade, he counted two and they all pulled the pin and as he counted three, the count on which they were all to throw their grenades at the house, the grenades exploded while in their hands."
http://www.justice.gov.za/Trc/decisions/2001/ac21058.htm

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Funny you should ask that!

My youngest brother, like me an historian specializing in 20th century warefare, my father and I once walked the battlefields of the Great War.  Found ordnance galore, but decided to bring back a full clip of .303 British bullets, plus a single one (that I kept) all in "as new condition" thanks to the Belgium mud.  Just brought them back via the ferry, but always wondered what could have happened if they jad been spotted by customs!!  They obviously were not the rusting shells or grenades that we found in bulk, as that would have been stupidly dangerous!  But have never really researched what the law actually says on ordnance transportation, preferring to stay ignorant!

I guess as long as bullets are in good condition and you do not also carry an Enfield .303 rifle, that can be used to fire them, you are fine.  A hand grenade with a pin that could fall apart / fall out, as we found plenty of, must be a different proposition however!!

But you say it is empty, so I cannot see that is a problem and would be classed as "deactivitated" or like a dummy grenade.

I think not Kate, a firearms certificate, (or possibly a collector's license), is required for you to have live ammo in your posession.

It was my posting Shackeng
y

You are no doubt right about the firearms certificate.  It is just as we'll we didn't come back with our best find; what we think was either a railway gun or naval shell, although the latter was most unlikely. Even the Royal Navy's super dreadnoughts could only fire a 15inch shell about 15 miles, and we were in deepest Northern Eastern France!  We failed to measure the exact dimensions of the shell, but it was at least a 15inch example, and too heavy to get into my Senator's boot!  It was also very live!

[Shackeng]

Funny you should ask that!

My youngest brother, like me an historian specializing in 20th century warefare, my father and I once walked the battlefields of the Great War.  Found ordnance galore, but decided to bring back a full clip of .303 British bullets, plus a single one (that I kept) all in "as new condition" thanks to the Belgium mud.  Just brought them back via the ferry, but always wondered what could have happened if they jad been spotted by customs!!  They obviously were not the rusting shells or grenades that we found in bulk, as that would have been stupidly dangerous!  But have never really researched what the law actually says on ordnance transportation, preferring to stay ignorant!

I guess as long as bullets are in good condition and you do not also carry an Enfield .303 rifle, that can be used to fire them, you are fine.  A hand grenade with a pin that could fall apart / fall out, as we found plenty of, must be a different proposition however!!

But you say it is empty, so I cannot see that is a problem and would be classed as "deactivitated" or like a dummy grenade.

I think not Kate, a firearms certificate, (or possibly a collector's license), is required for you to have live ammo in your posession.

It was my posting Shackeng
y

You are no doubt right about the firearms certificate.  It is just as we'll we didn't come back with our best find; what we think was either a railway gun or naval shell, although the latter was most unlikely. Even the Royal Navy's super dreadnoughts could only fire a 15inch shell about 15 miles, and we were in deepest Northern Eastern France!  We failed to measure the exact dimensions of the shell, but it was at least a 15inch example, and too heavy to get into my Senator's boot!  It was also very live!

Sorry Lizzie, I was just about to apologise when I read this!

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Funny you should ask that!

My youngest brother, like me an historian specializing in 20th century warefare, my father and I once walked the battlefields of the Great War.  Found ordnance galore, but decided to bring back a full clip of .303 British bullets, plus a single one (that I kept) all in "as new condition" thanks to the Belgium mud.  Just brought them back via the ferry, but always wondered what could have happened if they jad been spotted by customs!!  They obviously were not the rusting shells or grenades that we found in bulk, as that would have been stupidly dangerous!  But have never really researched what the law actually says on ordnance transportation, preferring to stay ignorant!

I guess as long as bullets are in good condition and you do not also carry an Enfield .303 rifle, that can be used to fire them, you are fine.  A hand grenade with a pin that could fall apart / fall out, as we found plenty of, must be a different proposition however!!

But you say it is empty, so I cannot see that is a problem and would be classed as "deactivitated" or like a dummy grenade.

I think not Kate, a firearms certificate, (or possibly a collector's license), is required for you to have live ammo in your posession.

It was my posting Shackeng
y

You are no doubt right about the firearms certificate.  It is just as we'll we didn't come back with our best find; what we think was either a railway gun or naval shell, although the latter was most unlikely. Even the Royal Navy's super dreadnoughts could only fire a 15inch shell about 15 miles, and we were in deepest Northern Eastern France!  We failed to measure the exact dimensions of the shell, but it was at least a 15inch example, and too heavy to get into my Senator's boot!  It was also very live!

Sorry Lizzie, I was just about to apologise when I read this!