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Re: Theory question re oil in plug wells
« Reply #15 on: 08 March 2014, 13:08:48 »

Yeeeep, they lost me at the start of ....   Well, the electrical bit. I'm still on "electricity flows, like water" ;D

Sort of, consider the flow as the current, the difference between the top and bottom of the pipe as the voltage (potential difference) and the bore of the pipe (e.g. the resistance to flow) as resistance
At the end of a long shift, if I'm seen standing with an empty water cup at an electrical socket, in stead of the water butt, I'm blaming you. ;D

It's no good Mark, I'm fine with stuff I can physically see. Geometry is fine for instance. Push rods and cams etc. I can see obvious faults with wiring as their visible, but component failure, if all looks normal or measuring stuff with a meter. No good.

Probably doesn't help that I have no need for electrical knowledge professionally either.

Telling me doesn't work either. (You may of noticed ;D ) I have to physically do stuff to absorb it. Not sure what learning style that is but it's probably not common to most, I guess. :-\
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Re: Theory question re oil in plug wells
« Reply #16 on: 08 March 2014, 18:46:18 »

I have to physically do stuff to absorb it. Not sure what learning style that is but it's probably not common to most, I guess. :-\
Seeing as you've never won a Darwin Award, I guess you know when NOT to try something ;D
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« Reply #17 on: 08 March 2014, 22:43:40 »

I have to physically do stuff to absorb it. Not sure what learning style that is but it's probably not common to most, I guess. :-\
Seeing as you've never won a Darwin Award, I guess you know when NOT to try something ;D

As your someone who can't cope with simple suspension jobs, and drags me half way up the m40 to "fix something that's broken" only to find the tyres are worn out to the cords, do feel free to apply. ;)
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Re: Theory question re oil in plug wells
« Reply #18 on: 09 March 2014, 09:11:40 »

I have to physically do stuff to absorb it. Not sure what learning style that is but it's probably not common to most, I guess. :-\
Seeing as you've never won a Darwin Award, I guess you know when NOT to try something ;D

As your someone who can't cope with simple suspension jobs, and drags me half way up the m40 to "fix something that's broken" only to find the tyres are worn out to the cords, do feel free to apply. ;)
Something was broken...  ...tyres.  I'm good at breaking tyres. Its a skill I have developed. A bloody expensive skill to learn though ;D
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« Reply #19 on: 09 March 2014, 10:53:07 »

I have to physically do stuff to absorb it. Not sure what learning style that is but it's probably not common to most, I guess. :-\
Seeing as you've never won a Darwin Award, I guess you know when NOT to try something ;D

As your someone who can't cope with simple suspension jobs, and drags me half way up the m40 to "fix something that's broken" only to find the tyres are worn out to the cords, do feel free to apply. ;)
Something was broken...  ...tyres.  I'm good at breaking tyres. Its a skill I have developed. A bloody expensive skill to learn though ;D
Clown car handling, in this case, was easily diagnosed while standing next to the car. You didn't even need to bend down to see it , it was THAT obvious. ;D ::)
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Re: Theory question re oil in plug wells
« Reply #20 on: 09 March 2014, 11:31:21 »

I have to physically do stuff to absorb it. Not sure what learning style that is but it's probably not common to most, I guess. :-\
Seeing as you've never won a Darwin Award, I guess you know when NOT to try something ;D

As your someone who can't cope with simple suspension jobs, and drags me half way up the m40 to "fix something that's broken" only to find the tyres are worn out to the cords, do feel free to apply. ;)
Something was broken...  ...tyres.  I'm good at breaking tyres. Its a skill I have developed. A bloody expensive skill to learn though ;D
Clown car handling, in this case, was easily diagnosed while standing next to the car. You didn't even need to bend down to see it , it was THAT obvious. ;D ::)
They had a similar profile to the Kawasaki ;D
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Re: Theory question re oil in plug wells
« Reply #21 on: 09 March 2014, 13:46:22 »

Yeeeep, they lost me at the start of ....   Well, the electrical bit. I'm still on "electricity flows, like water" ;D

Sort of, consider the flow as the current, the difference between the top and bottom of the pipe as the voltage (potential difference) and the bore of the pipe (e.g. the resistance to flow) as resistance
At the end of a long shift, if I'm seen standing with an empty water cup at an electrical socket, in stead of the water butt, I'm blaming you. ;D

It's no good Mark, I'm fine with stuff I can physically see. Geometry is fine for instance. Push rods and cams etc. I can see obvious faults with wiring as their visible, but component failure, if all looks normal or measuring stuff with a meter. No good.

Probably doesn't help that I have no need for electrical knowledge professionally either.

Telling me doesn't work either. (You may of noticed ;D ) I have to physically do stuff to absorb it. Not sure what learning style that is but it's probably not common to most, I guess. :-\

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empirical_evidence :y
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« Reply #22 on: 09 March 2014, 14:16:59 »

Yeeeep, they lost me at the start of ....   Well, the electrical bit. I'm still on "electricity flows, like water" ;D

Sort of, consider the flow as the current, the difference between the top and bottom of the pipe as the voltage (potential difference) and the bore of the pipe (e.g. the resistance to flow) as resistance

That brings back memories !  When I started my flight engineer training way back in 1970 I knew absolutely nothing about electronics, it had not been taught to me at school (despite doing A level Physics) in any way .. and I could not get my head around it ...  one of the instructors sorted me out in 2 hours .. by comparing every aspect of electronics / electrics to basic plumbing .. and it really works ..

Battery - header tank
Voltage - pressure head
Current - flow rate
Resistance - pipe diameter
Variable resistance - hose pipe being bent
Capacitor - automatic toilet cistern
Switch - valve
Diode - non-return valve


etc etc etc ... :)

Might not make sense to many .. but it got me through the course  .. :)
When you put it like that... :y
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Re: Theory question re oil in plug wells
« Reply #23 on: 09 March 2014, 14:21:02 »

Yeeeep, they lost me at the start of ....   Well, the electrical bit. I'm still on "electricity flows, like water" ;D

Sort of, consider the flow as the current, the difference between the top and bottom of the pipe as the voltage (potential difference) and the bore of the pipe (e.g. the resistance to flow) as resistance
At the end of a long shift, if I'm seen standing with an empty water cup at an electrical socket, in stead of the water butt, I'm blaming you. ;D

It's no good Mark, I'm fine with stuff I can physically see. Geometry is fine for instance. Push rods and cams etc. I can see obvious faults with wiring as their visible, but component failure, if all looks normal or measuring stuff with a meter. No good.

Probably doesn't help that I have no need for electrical knowledge professionally either.

Telling me doesn't work either. (You may of noticed ;D ) I have to physically do stuff to absorb it. Not sure what learning style that is but it's probably not common to most, I guess. :-\

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empirical_evidence :y

Ah, indeed, practical types, as I referred to elsewhere.

As opposed to taking random bollards off the internet and re presenting as hard unequivocal indesputanle facts. Or impractical types.

Practical and impractical being far too small a pigeon hole, clearly.

See, some might say I haven't had an education. While I was over the fields on me bike, some might say I had an even better education, with practical hands on "Emperical evidence" encountered first hand.

To then be judged on the grounds of an education and qualification system that is based on all else except(by employers and managers mostly) really does grate my nerves, frankly.

...or maybe I need to accept other learning styles as genuine. (Snigger)
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Re: Theory question re oil in plug wells
« Reply #24 on: 10 March 2014, 08:54:54 »

Yeeeep, they lost me at the start of ....   Well, the electrical bit. I'm still on "electricity flows, like water" ;D

Sort of, consider the flow as the current, the difference between the top and bottom of the pipe as the voltage (potential difference) and the bore of the pipe (e.g. the resistance to flow) as resistance

That brings back memories !  When I started my flight engineer training way back in 1970 I knew absolutely nothing about electronics, it had not been taught to me at school (despite doing A level Physics) in any way .. and I could not get my head around it ...  one of the instructors sorted me out in 2 hours .. by comparing every aspect of electronics / electrics to basic plumbing .. and it really works ..

Battery - header tank
Voltage - pressure head
Current - flow rate
Resistance - pipe diameter
Variable resistance - hose pipe being bent
Capacitor - automatic toilet cistern
Switch - valve
Diode - non-return valve


etc etc etc ... :)

Might not make sense to many .. but it got me through the course  .. :)

They had us weighed up Nige ::)

The thing that baffled me was when they tried to explain electron flow - in the opposite direction to current! I reverted then to "...connected by a suitable system of gears and linkages". :y
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Re: Theory question re oil in plug wells
« Reply #25 on: 10 March 2014, 09:02:19 »

Electrical is easy (which is the above), electronic gets much more interesting and is where 'Maths' is much more involved.
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Re: Theory question re oil in plug wells
« Reply #26 on: 10 March 2014, 10:46:06 »

Yeeeep, they lost me at the start of ....   Well, the electrical bit. I'm still on "electricity flows, like water" ;D

Sort of, consider the flow as the current, the difference between the top and bottom of the pipe as the voltage (potential difference) and the bore of the pipe (e.g. the resistance to flow) as resistance

That brings back memories !  When I started my flight engineer training way back in 1970 I knew absolutely nothing about electronics, it had not been taught to me at school (despite doing A level Physics) in any way .. and I could not get my head around it ...  one of the instructors sorted me out in 2 hours .. by comparing every aspect of electronics / electrics to basic plumbing .. and it really works ..

Battery - header tank
Voltage - pressure head
Current - flow rate
Resistance - pipe diameter
Variable resistance - hose pipe being bent
Capacitor - automatic toilet cistern
Switch - valve
Diode - non-return valve


etc etc etc ... :)

Might not make sense to many .. but it got me through the course  .. :)

They had us weighed up Nige ::)

The thing that baffled me was when they tried to explain electron flow - in the opposite direction to current! I reverted then to "...connected by a suitable system of gears and linkages". :y

ahh yes .. that overstuffed, jumped up little scottish Flt Lt AEO instructor who delighted in bamboozeling every one with his theories of "holes moving backwards" ... thank the Lord for an old fashioned MEng instructor who actually believed in trying to get the students to pass the course, rather than said prats belief that failing students proved how clever he was(n't) ....

:)
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Re: Theory question re oil in plug wells
« Reply #27 on: 10 March 2014, 13:55:17 »

That brings back memories !  When I started my flight engineer training way back in 1970 I knew absolutely nothing about electronics, it had not been taught to me at school (despite doing A level Physics) in any way .. and I could not get my head around it ...  one of the instructors sorted me out in 2 hours .. by comparing every aspect of electronics / electrics to basic plumbing .. and it really works ..

Battery - header tank
Voltage - pressure head
Current - flow rate
Resistance - pipe diameter
Variable resistance - hose pipe being bent
Capacitor - automatic toilet cistern
Switch - valve
Diode - non-return valve


etc etc etc ... :)

Might not make sense to many .. but it got me through the course  .. :)

'Water analogy' ... ;)
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Re: Theory question re oil in plug wells
« Reply #28 on: 10 March 2014, 18:09:50 »

Yeeeep, they lost me at the start of ....   Well, the electrical bit. I'm still on "electricity flows, like water" ;D

Sort of, consider the flow as the current, the difference between the top and bottom of the pipe as the voltage (potential difference) and the bore of the pipe (e.g. the resistance to flow) as resistance

That brings back memories !  When I started my flight engineer training way back in 1970 I knew absolutely nothing about electronics, it had not been taught to me at school (despite doing A level Physics) in any way .. and I could not get my head around it ...  one of the instructors sorted me out in 2 hours .. by comparing every aspect of electronics / electrics to basic plumbing .. and it really works ..

Battery - header tank
Voltage - pressure head
Current - flow rate
Resistance - pipe diameter
Variable resistance - hose pipe being bent
Capacitor - automatic toilet cistern
Switch - valve
Diode - non-return valve


etc etc etc ... :)

Might not make sense to many .. but it got me through the course  .. :)

They had us weighed up Nige ::)

The thing that baffled me was when they tried to explain electron flow - in the opposite direction to current! I reverted then to "...connected by a suitable system of gears and linkages". :y

ahh yes .. that overstuffed, jumped up little scottish Flt Lt AEO instructor who delighted in bamboozeling every one with his theories of "holes moving backwards" ... thank the Lord for an old fashioned MEng instructor who actually believed in trying to get the students to pass the course, rather than said prats belief that failing students proved how clever he was(n't) ....

:)

That was the one :-X :-X :-X
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