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Re: Malaysian Airlines Crash...
« Reply #120 on: 14 March 2014, 23:57:18 »

I refer the honourable gent to Reply#7 :y

Especially as they have yet to find a single scrap of debris...

Although now they're starting to search the Indian Ocean in the vicinity of the Andaman Islands. :-\

Not forgetting, they are undertaking land searches in that area also ... So many theories and yet still no plane found! Maybe it is in the ocean, but it's that deep no-one will ever find it ... Here's for hoping there was a Thompson Holiday's rep onboard that has taken them on an unplanned surprise vacation  ???
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Crash...
« Reply #121 on: 15 March 2014, 00:01:31 »

Here's for hoping there was a Thompson Holiday's rep onboard that has taken them on an unplanned surprise vacation  ???

We go mystally tour!!  :-X  :D
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« Reply #122 on: 15 March 2014, 00:10:19 »

Here's for hoping there was a Thompson Holiday's rep onboard that has taken them on an unplanned surprise vacation  ???

We go mystally tour!:-X  :D

I nearly fell off my chair  :D
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« Reply #123 on: 15 March 2014, 00:42:46 »

;D
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Crash...
« Reply #124 on: 15 March 2014, 07:22:34 »

Looks like the communications were deliberately disabled for whatever reason
 
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26591056
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Crash...
« Reply #125 on: 15 March 2014, 08:25:49 »

Alien abduction Sophisticated kidnap?

Still doesn't answer where is the plane and how can a plane just fly around the skies with no one "noticing" or intercepting with military jet.

Are air crews luggage subject to security checks like the passengers? If the crew hijacked their own plane how did they subdue the passengers? Otherwise the minute they landed or had to leave the cockpit the passengers would overcome them. 
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Crash...
« Reply #126 on: 15 March 2014, 10:05:48 »

Sounding like the pilots went tonto. But still no sign of the plane  :-\
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Crash...
« Reply #127 on: 15 March 2014, 13:57:27 »

Alien abduction Sophisticated kidnap?

Still doesn't answer where is the plane and how can a plane just fly around the skies with no one "noticing" or intercepting with military jet.

Are air crews luggage subject to security checks like the passengers? If the crew hijacked their own plane how did they subdue the passengers? Otherwise the minute they landed or had to leave the cockpit the passengers would overcome them.
Without a transponder signal the aircraft is invisible to everything except local radar (just a blip on a screen) and the naked eye (it was dark, so reasonbable to assume that they also turned the lights off). If it's not near anything sensitive, no one would really raise an eyebrow, and being dark it becomes a hole in the sky.

The passengers were on a six hour night flight, the first sign of an issue would be when they landed and couldn't get off the plane.

The crew all go through the same security checks as any passenger or airport worker, the more complicated you make summat, the more likely you are to get caught. Equally the more people in the loop, the more chance of an information leak.

Based on what is known... this is how I would have done it...

1.Transponder, exterior lights off.
2. Flight deck full face oxygen masks on. (cockpit has plumbed in long term oxygen supply).
3. Reduce cabin pressure from 10,000ft to say 2-3000, whilst simultaneously climbing to 40-45,000ft. This would purge the breathable atmosphere from the cabin, incapacitating the passengers/crew. (An alternative would be drugging the meals during the meal service but given the time of the flight, first meal was probably breakfast...)
4. Return to a flight level low enough to enable visual navigation, but not so low as to be suspicious and critically a flight level not full of aircraft, say 20-25,000 ft
5. Fly to a destination of my choice, possibly Pakistan.

If I were a suicidal type, I would bin it somewhere loud and obvious, much like the EgyptAir pilot in '99.
If I were a simple terrorist, I would want the bang to be devastating and again loud and obvious.
If I were a hijacker, I would order the plane to land somewhere and have a long list of demands, again loud and obvious.
If I were a believer in a cause, I would take control of the aircraft, incapacitate the passengers and deliver the aircraft to an Al Qaeda camp in northern Pakistan for them to use it as they will.

If they don't find the wreckage, the next time that aircraft is spotted will be too late...

By the time the authorities start to think a bit beyond their noses, the aircraft will probably be back in the air, and on it's way to it's final destination. My guess on this would be the US east coast via Africa.

Although the ACARS was transmitting a basic signal that could be disabled on the ground easily enough. The transponder could easily be switched with one from an aircraft with similar speed capability (basically any twin engine jet from a Learjet up). It would then be free to fly anywhere on a legitimate private flight plan, and by flying at night, it would never be spotted. Could literally get anywhere.

Think stealing a car, waiting a week to see if it has a tracker fitted, then change the plates and off you go...
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Crash...
« Reply #128 on: 15 March 2014, 14:13:16 »

this is how I would have done it...

If I were a suicidal type, If I were a simple terrorist, If I were a hijacker, If I were a believer in a cause,
Starting to get a bit worried about you Al, not sure if I wanna be in your Taxi when you've got the right hump,  ;D  ;)
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Crash...
« Reply #129 on: 15 March 2014, 14:14:25 »

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Based on what is known... this is how I would have done it...
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As above  ??? Do you have an alibi for last Friday  ::)  ::)  ;D  ;D  ;D
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Crash...
« Reply #130 on: 15 March 2014, 14:18:10 »

Fear not Ken, I am neither suicidal, a terrorist or a hijacker ;D, besides stealing my own car would be a touch daft ::)

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Based on what is known... this is how I would have done it...
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As above  ??? Do you have an alibi for last Friday  ::)  ::)  ;D  ;D  ;D
What time? I was at work when they finally reported it missing ;D
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Crash...
« Reply #131 on: 15 March 2014, 14:26:33 »

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What time? I was at work when they finally reported it missing ;D

 .......and can someone vouch for that?  ::)  ::)  ::)
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Crash...
« Reply #132 on: 15 March 2014, 14:29:37 »

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What time? I was at work when they finally reported it missing ;D

 .......and can someone vouch for that?  ::)  ::)  ::)
Yep, fairly sure I saw him parking up at the Airport.  :)
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Crash...
« Reply #133 on: 15 March 2014, 14:34:44 »

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What time? I was at work when they finally reported it missing ;D

 .......and can someone vouch for that?  ::)  ::)  ::)
Yep, fairly sure I saw him parking up at the Airport.  :)

 ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Crash...
« Reply #134 on: 15 March 2014, 14:42:54 »

Sorry Chris, got you confused with Nitro again  :-[  ::)

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What time? I was at work when they finally reported it missing ;D

 .......and can someone vouch for that?  ::)  ::)  ::)
Yep, fairly sure I saw him parking up at the Airport.  :)

 ;D ;D ;D
I've the stub to prove it too ;D
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