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whose fault?
« on: 01 April 2014, 08:54:13 »
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Re: whose fault?
« Reply #1 on: 01 April 2014, 09:06:21 »
Well,the Mazda pulled out on the Lambo but the Lambo seemed to be travelling quite quickly ???
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Re: whose fault?
« Reply #2 on: 01 April 2014, 09:08:35 »
Why did there juuuuuust happen to be an HD camera looking at the Mazda?
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Re: whose fault?
« Reply #3 on: 01 April 2014, 09:10:11 »
Quote from: henryd on 01 April 2014, 09:06:21
Well,the Mazda pulled out on the Lambo but the Lambo seemed to be travelling quite quickly ???

and if you look, there's a Masserati of some kind just down the road. Who thinks they might have been playing silly buggers!  :-\
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Re: whose fault?
« Reply #4 on: 01 April 2014, 09:20:48 »
Give way violation by the Mazda....
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Re: whose fault?
« Reply #5 on: 01 April 2014, 09:23:23 »
The lambo driver didn't brake until after he hit the Mazda ::)

Granted the Mazda should probably not have pulled out, but an emergency stop from thirty in a car with tyres and brakes the size of the Aventadors could be measured in inches rather than yards :-\

Be interesting to see the cctv footage from the bus behind the Maserati too...
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Re: whose fault?
« Reply #6 on: 01 April 2014, 09:24:40 »
He was obviously paying more attention to his blonde passenger than the road ahead!  ::)
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Re: whose fault?
« Reply #7 on: 01 April 2014, 13:59:44 »
Mazda's at fault, no matter how fast the Lambo was travelling (and it was slowing down before impact) the Lambo had right of way....
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Re: whose fault?
« Reply #8 on: 01 April 2014, 14:26:24 »
Quote from: Sir Tigger on 01 April 2014, 09:24:40
He was obviously paying more attention to his the view than the road ahead!  ::)

Fixed ;)
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Re: whose fault?
« Reply #9 on: 01 April 2014, 14:39:55 »
Quote from: minifreek on 01 April 2014, 13:59:44
Mazda's at fault, no matter how fast the Lambo was travelling (and it was slowing down before impact) the Lambo had right of way....

Up to the speed limit, yes. Beyond that, the Lambo driver's share of the liability increases rapidly, IMHO. You can't expect miss daisy sitting at a junction to anticipate you approaching it at three-figure leptons. If you're going to stretch the legs of your Lambo / whatever to that extent, you'd better have much better than average hazard perception, and be ready to accommodate less super-human road users accordingly. .. not to mention being prepared to take the rap if that strategy doesn't work for you.  ;)

Not saying that's necessarily the case in this instance...
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Re: whose fault?
« Reply #10 on: 01 April 2014, 16:49:30 »
Lambo driver should have read our tyre threads and braking distances  ::)
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Re: whose fault?
« Reply #11 on: 01 April 2014, 16:58:55 »
 Very often in London, you have to creep forward, to get a better view and due to bad traffic. I would say that although the Aventador has right of way, the fact that he/she was going so fast that he/she couldnt brake in a 30mph zone suggests he/she was going way too fast for the conditions and will have a significant proportion of blame to accept, perhaps more than the Mazda driver. Driving without due care comes to mind. Visibility is good, road surface is not wet, so no reason for a modern supercar being unable to perform an emergency braking manoeuvre.

The noise from the Lambo as well as the speed at which the car impacts, suggests speeding.

Edit: The brake lights dont come on till the second impact. Distracted Lambo driver, I think.
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Re: whose fault?
« Reply #12 on: 01 April 2014, 17:34:58 »
No horn either...
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Re: whose fault?
« Reply #13 on: 01 April 2014, 17:39:58 »
Dosnt matter. Mazda has to give way.

Lambo might be in line for speeding offence, but fact is if the Mazda hadn't pulled out there'd be no prang.
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Re: whose fault?
« Reply #14 on: 01 April 2014, 17:45:46 »
Quote from: chrisgixer on 01 April 2014, 17:39:58
Dosnt matter. Mazda has to give way.

Lambo might be in line for speeding offence, but fact is if the Mazda hadn't pulled out there'd be no prang.
Yes but if the lambo driver had been a) not speeding, and b) paying attention, it would never have happened...

Have been in a similar prang, from the lambo drivers perspective. That was settled 50/50 plus my costs.

The only notable difference was that I slid into the third party, brakes locked, as I had reacted to the rapidly changing situation in front of me. Had my car had abs, I might not have hit them at all :-\
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