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Re: 2.2 petrol suspected HG failure
« Reply #15 on: 08 April 2014, 21:51:15 »

I'm hoping it's going to be simple once I start, not looking simple right now!

I have a new manifold, cambelt kit and water pump (gm).

I just need to order the gasket and bolts, still not sure which to go for.

Steve
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Re: 2.2 petrol suspected HG failure
« Reply #17 on: 08 April 2014, 22:16:57 »

Elring for all gaskets except cam cover which must be genuine

With Elring the exhaust manifold gasket is multi layer steel so OE quality :y

Bear in mind throttle body gaskets aren't included in most kits
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Re: 2.2 petrol suspected HG failure
« Reply #18 on: 08 April 2014, 23:22:13 »

Elring for all gaskets except cam cover which must be genuine

With Elring the exhaust manifold gasket is multi layer steel so OE quality :y

Bear in mind throttle body gaskets aren't included in most kits

have to agree there, Mine leaks with the elring gasket at the front and rear corners ... I'm told it's because of the top being plastic and a smear of sealant in the rocker top before you press the gasket in and a smear on the gasket itself on the side that faces the head surface should stop it leaking (when I say smear I mean very little). I'm interested in how james would do this as I have had little luck sealing fully, I have nasty oil runs where I don't want them and it looks like the bottom end is leaking when it's not  ::)
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Re: 2.2 petrol suspected HG failure
« Reply #19 on: 09 April 2014, 08:10:16 »

I've only recently fitted a new cam cover gasket.

I used VX gasket, washers and sealant following the guide on here and it's not leaked so far  :y

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Re: 2.2 petrol suspected HG failure
« Reply #20 on: 16 April 2014, 13:46:49 »

I've started :)

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5yqpr6qqnp9rvzz/_wIdlOjbL0

Problems so far:

2 x exhaust manifold studs snapped in head - can I solve this? Or does it need to goto a machine shop?

The little clips on the electrical connections to the injectors seemed very brittle and sustained some damage coming off.

More photos to follow.
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Re: 2.2 petrol suspected HG failure
« Reply #21 on: 16 April 2014, 17:47:30 »

Have you look on ebay for stud remover.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOefpJRXfBk found this it might help. :y
« Last Edit: 16 April 2014, 17:50:15 by badmuver »
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Re: 2.2 petrol suspected HG failure
« Reply #22 on: 16 April 2014, 18:29:57 »

Unfortunately I don't seem to have much if any stud sticking out, will look more closely in the morning.

Head is off and photos updated:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5yqpr6qqnp9rvzz/_wIdlOjbL0

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Re: 2.2 petrol suspected HG failure
« Reply #23 on: 16 April 2014, 20:40:34 »

So how long did it take you to strip it down? :)
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« Reply #24 on: 16 April 2014, 22:49:46 »

6 hours, but I was taking my time with plenty of tea   :)
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Re: 2.2 petrol suspected HG failure
« Reply #25 on: 17 April 2014, 07:55:09 »

Tea is the most important part, when any man is working or we lose concentration (think I spelled it right ) ;D  :y
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Re: 2.2 petrol suspected HG failure
« Reply #26 on: 17 April 2014, 08:34:36 »

Any thoughts on what look like blocked waterways in this photo?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/m1qusn58cy1d3uk/SAM_0448.JPG

I never had any overheating problems but they look very restricted. On cleaning up only where the HG is though. I worry this could mean head warped with the temperature having appeared to go high.

Can someone who has done a few tell me if this is normal?

Many thanks
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Re: 2.2 petrol suspected HG failure
« Reply #27 on: 17 April 2014, 09:36:29 »

Any thoughts on what look like blocked waterways in this photo?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/m1qusn58cy1d3uk/SAM_0448.JPG

I never had any overheating problems but they look very restricted. On cleaning up only where the HG is though. I worry this could mean head warped with the temperature having appeared to go high.

Can someone who has done a few tell me if this is normal?

Many thanks

Without even
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Re: 2.2 petrol suspected HG failure
« Reply #28 on: 17 April 2014, 11:33:26 »

Any thoughts on what look like blocked waterways in this photo?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/m1qusn58cy1d3uk/SAM_0448.JPG

I never had any overheating problems but they look very restricted. On cleaning up only where the HG is though. I worry this could mean head warped with the temperature having appeared to go high.

Can someone who has done a few tell me if this is normal?

Many thanks

What you have to remember is that, whilst you've got a large water jacket area passing from block to head around each cylinder, in the normal case, there will only be small holes in the head gasket to allow coolant flow between them, spaced and sized to give approximately equal cooling to the 4 cylinders.

I think what you are looking at is not a blockage of those passages, but deterioration of the head gasket material that used to cover them with the exception of the small holes in the gasket that are just about visible.

So no, I wouldn't worry. That said, if you are having to take the head to an engineering company to get the studs removed, you might as well ask them to check it for flatness while you're at it. :y
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Re: 2.2 petrol suspected HG failure
« Reply #29 on: 17 April 2014, 11:39:03 »

Thanks Kevin,

That makes much more sense, the engineering shop I dropped it to this morning said they would 'vacuum test' and 'check it is flat' so hopefully thats it all covered.  :D

Steve

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