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Shorter races? Possibly with a view to two races.

Yes. A shorter race would be better.
- 4 (23.5%)
No. Leave it as is.
- 8 (47.1%)
Two shorter races instead of one long race.
- 5 (29.4%)

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Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
« Reply #15 on: 07 April 2014, 10:38:03 »

thought it was a good race tbh, leave as is i say.  :)
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Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
« Reply #16 on: 07 April 2014, 10:41:38 »

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Once the first few laps are out the way, the teams are just waiting to get through to the end. Conserving tyres, checking fuel etc.

I believe the word that you are looking for is 'strategy' - just as much a part of the race as the first and final pushes, and often just as entertaining.

Ypu find strategy more entertaining than full on racing?

Who said "more entertaining"? I said, "often just as entertaining". And don't call me Ypu  ;D

Ok, just as entertaining ::) seems most odd to me. But each to their own I guess.

I think most motorsport fans would agree that team tactics and strategy - and the subsequent execution/outcome of that strategy - are a fascinating element to any top-shelf racing. Wheel to wheel action is, of course, what sets pulses through the roof, but you can't really have one without the other.
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Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
« Reply #17 on: 07 April 2014, 10:58:03 »

A figure of 8 track with a cross over would make it better :y
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Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
« Reply #18 on: 07 April 2014, 11:00:22 »

A figure of 8 track with a cross over would make it better :y

Have you been playing Super Sprint on your Atari again?!  ;D

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Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
« Reply #19 on: 07 April 2014, 11:12:34 »

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Once the first few laps are out the way, the teams are just waiting to get through to the end. Conserving tyres, checking fuel etc.

I believe the word that you are looking for is 'strategy' - just as much a part of the race as the first and final pushes, and often just as entertaining.

Ypu find strategy more entertaining than full on racing?

Who said "more entertaining"? I said, "often just as entertaining". And don't call me Ypu  ;D

Ok, just as entertaining ::) seems most odd to me. But each to their own I guess.

I think most motorsport fans would agree that team tactics and strategy - and the subsequent execution/outcome of that strategy - are a fascinating element to any top-shelf racing. Wheel to wheel action is, of course, what sets pulses through the roof, but you can't really have one without the other.
So it's not "just as entertaining" as the racing then? I don't see the strategic elements "setting pulses through the roof" do you?
I take your point though...

...although, I see a good few racers being interviewed on the grid being asked " what's the plan for the race" in so many words. Your not looking to hear answers like "oh I'm just going to wobble round in last place and admire the view" obviously the racer is going to give an odd look to the interviewer and say "I'm going to go as fat as I can and hopefully win the race"

If, then, his team gets on the blower and tells him to slow down, due to tyres or fuel for instance, the that tells me summats wrong. Same way that when the team gets on the blower and says, slow down the gear box is over heating or whatever fault.

If your asking your driver to slow down, for whatever reason, something is wrong. As happened a lot last season.

This season remains to be seen, on that front, but given a rather precessional areas of races so far, I think shorter races would solve a few issues with the F1 format.
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Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
« Reply #20 on: 07 April 2014, 11:52:59 »

A figure of 8 track with a cross over would make it better :y
Suzuka without the bridge ::)  ;D ;D

gixer, let me explain so that you understand. It is like a wink, fun at the start and into the hard straight with lots of thinking and imagination( STRATEGY), and all the excitement comes at the finish, and the longer it is the more stimulating. ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D
GOT IT ??? ;) :y
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Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
« Reply #21 on: 07 April 2014, 11:53:16 »

If they go as fat as they can, won't they slow the car down?  :-\
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Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
« Reply #22 on: 07 April 2014, 11:59:52 »

If they go as fat as they can, won't they slow the car down?  :-\
Lmao. i was thinking that myself.  :D
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Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
« Reply #23 on: 07 April 2014, 12:04:34 »

Add some interest by having a reverse grid ? Max Chilton on the front row every race !
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Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
« Reply #24 on: 07 April 2014, 12:08:06 »

Add some interest by having a reverse grid ? Max Chilton on the front row every race !
imho i think that would be a great thing to do, would spice it up a bit.  :)
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Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
« Reply #25 on: 07 April 2014, 12:16:13 »

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Once the first few laps are out the way, the teams are just waiting to get through to the end. Conserving tyres, checking fuel etc.

I believe the word that you are looking for is 'strategy' - just as much a part of the race as the first and final pushes, and often just as entertaining.

Ypu find strategy more entertaining than full on racing?

Who said "more entertaining"? I said, "often just as entertaining". And don't call me Ypu  ;D

Ok, just as entertaining ::) seems most odd to me. But each to their own I guess.

I think most motorsport fans would agree that team tactics and strategy - and the subsequent execution/outcome of that strategy - are a fascinating element to any top-shelf racing. Wheel to wheel action is, of course, what sets pulses through the roof, but you can't really have one without the other.
So it's not "just as entertaining" as the racing then? I don't see the strategic elements "setting pulses through the roof" do you?

I said that it can be just as entertaining, yes. That doesn't mean that the enjoyment is necessarily measured in the same way. Think of it like this; if I go to the cinema and watch a comedy-drama I can be entertained by the funny AND emotive elements, but my reaction is quite different to the two even though I might enjoy both in equal measure.
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Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
« Reply #26 on: 07 April 2014, 14:54:41 »

1 lap is enough  ::)
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Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
« Reply #27 on: 07 April 2014, 16:04:25 »

Add some interest by having a reverse grid ? Max Chilton on the front row every race !
imho i think that would be a great thing to do, would spice it up a bit.  :)

Yep +1 :y :y
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Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
« Reply #28 on: 07 April 2014, 16:21:22 »

Just a tad, Santa Pod will do nicely.  ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D

Lewis being on the slower tyres and still winning shows the difference between the good and the great.

If you want to liven it up further just add slicks, random oil slicks or a few more chicanes, 2 or 3 clones of Pastor 'Crasher' Maldonado. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
« Reply #29 on: 07 April 2014, 16:28:08 »

damp races are always a good leveller of talent.

The thing about the race length is having got the circus half way around the world a short race wouldn't be worthy of the build up. Spanish TV talks for about 2 hours and fifty minutes about Alonso and how great he is. The other ten minutes covers the rest of the field. Then post race they talk for hours about how well Alonso did.

I think two hours or so many laps whichever comes first is about right. maybe those that want shorter races have too much pressure on their lives in this "instant age".
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