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05omegav6

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English lessons with Al...
« on: 11 April 2014, 10:40:07 »

Apologies if this comes across all patronising :-[ not intended that way, as I appreciate that not everyone here reads or writes English as their first language, and that inspite of society's best efforts not everyone can read and write fluently. Hell, even little old me had to retake my GCSE English language, and even then I barely scraped a C grade ::)

Anyways...

"How it can fly whilst carrying so much shite is beyond me." Statement, bourne out by word order and closing with a full stop.

"How can it fly whilst carrying so much shite?" Question, bourne out by the use of a question mark at the end. This question might then be quantified with a statement such as, "It is beyond me."

English is a funny old language consisting mostly of Norse, German, French, Arabic, Gaellic, Latin and Bretan? Not necessarily in that order and not allowing for the Americans/Mr Jobs either :D

Had the example question been written in Spanish, it would have been started with an inverted question mark... ¿Como... ? so that the reader would instantly recognise it as a question.

Picking holes in peoples spelling, punctuation and grammer isn't on. Not that there's much excuse for not ending sentences with some sort of punctuation and starting them with a capital letter, as this makes things easier to read. Also if you rely on predictive text, turn it off. Assuming of course that Mr Jobs will let you ::)
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Re: English lessons with Al...
« Reply #1 on: 11 April 2014, 11:44:49 »

What if I choose not to follow your instructions? Will I get six of the best?  :-*
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« Reply #2 on: 11 April 2014, 12:07:50 »

My English and Grammar is word perfect,                               its just my brain, fingers, keyboard and eyes don't seem to want to communicate in harmony. ::)
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05omegav6

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Re: English lessons with Al...
« Reply #3 on: 11 April 2014, 12:50:12 »

What if I choose not to follow your instructions? Will I get six of the best?  :-*
Dream on Sheepy... ;D
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« Reply #4 on: 11 April 2014, 13:48:38 »

A little bit of info can be a dangerous fing. ::)
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Re: English lessons with Al...
« Reply #5 on: 11 April 2014, 14:07:20 »

Got grade C cse in English.
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Re: English lessons with Al...
« Reply #6 on: 11 April 2014, 15:17:44 »

I was on me bike, over the fields. ...I have mentioned this before.

Steve Jobs wasn't CEO at the time, so I was aloud.
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05omegav6

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Re: English lessons with Al...
« Reply #7 on: 11 April 2014, 15:22:27 »

 Ah yes that old ' I wasn't there at the time...' chestnut ;D
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« Reply #8 on: 11 April 2014, 15:35:31 »

I was on me bike, over the fields. ...I have mentioned this before.

Steve Jobs wasn't CEO at the time, so I was aloud.
You're always aloud.  ;D
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Re: English lessons with Al...
« Reply #9 on: 11 April 2014, 15:38:41 »

I was on me bike, over the fields. ...I have mentioned this before.

Steve Jobs wasn't CEO at the time, so I was aloud.

 Shhhhh!  ::)
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« Reply #10 on: 11 April 2014, 16:06:45 »

I was on me bike, over the fields. ...I have mentioned this before.

Steve Jobs wasn't CEO at the time, so I was aloud.

 Shhhhh!  ::)


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Re: English lessons with Al...
« Reply #11 on: 11 April 2014, 16:17:30 »

I was on me bike, over the fields. ...I have mentioned this before.

Steve Jobs wasn't CEO at the time, so I was aloud.

 Shhhhh!  ::)


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 ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: English lessons with Al...
« Reply #12 on: 12 April 2014, 20:18:38 »

Thats the beauty of English, you learn all of the subtleties and nuances as a child, so you can immediately spot somebody who didn't learn English as their first Language. It is great for spotting fraudsters on the Internet, Nigerian English is not English English. ;D ;D ;D Americans have been trying to learn proper English for 400 years and they still fall far well short. ::) ::) ::)

My wife is currently struggling to take her English to the next level, particularly her written English as part of a degree course and will often create several sentences and when the correction is illogical compared to the others in the series and she asks, "why is this one different?", all I can answer is because it is. This is the problem with having a mongrel language, we have far more words that means similar things and likewise many more different ways of expressing things compared to most languages.  :o :o :o

Where we gain on simplicity compared with most languages is English does not assigned genders to objects like French and we have much simpler verb structures, many languages have possessive and non-possessive verb variations, not to mention further variations which conjoined words. In Russian and Ukrainian 'run' and 'toRun' are different verbs. :( :( :(
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Re: English lessons with Al...
« Reply #13 on: 12 April 2014, 21:22:07 »

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 we have far more words that means similar things and likewise many more different ways of expressing things compared to most languages.  :o :o :o
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That what a Hungarian I worked with years ago used to say.  :y
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« Reply #14 on: 12 April 2014, 21:22:51 »

Thats the beauty of English, you learn all of the subtleties and nuances as a child, so you can immediately spot somebody who didn't learn English as their first Language.  .....

Cem does very very well though  :y  :y  :y
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