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[Terbs]

Here is another one for you.... I can't find any Upol D or P38 in the garage, but a have a few tins of the wood filler versions.
I know that sounds silly to use on a car, but it is used exactly as the Isopon products, sets like rock, smells the same, uses the same hardener, do you reckon that would do as filler.
Personally, I think P38, Upol D, Isopon, etc, etc are all the same, just marketed with different names for different trades.
Please correct me if I am wrong

[Vamps]

I have used P38 on wood, and have a small job on plasterwork that I will be using it on as I just need to 'build up' a little around a light switch.........

[Kevin Wood]

Here is another one for you.... I can't find any Upol D or P38 in the garage, but a have a few tins of the wood filler versions....

Not got any of that wood-effect fablon stuff stashed in the back o the garage, have you? Just thinking you could go the whole hog.. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Buick-Roadmaster-Estate-Wagon-Wagon-4-Door-/141278787679 

[omega3000]

Here is another one for you.... I can't find any Upol D or P38 in the garage, but a have a few tins of the wood filler versions....

Not got any of that wood-effect fablon stuff stashed in the back o the garage, have you? Just thinking you could go the whole hog.. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Buick-Roadmaster-Estate-Wagon-Wagon-4-Door-/141278787679 

Mmm woody 

[Terbs]

Here is another one for you.... I can't find any Upol D or P38 in the garage, but a have a few tins of the wood filler versions....

Not got any of that wood-effect fablon stuff stashed in the back o the garage, have you? Just thinking you could go the whole hog.. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Buick-Roadmaster-Estate-Wagon-Wagon-4-Door-/141278787679 

  I don't think so Kevin....I don't really want to drive around like a fallen tree trunk

[cem_devecioglu]

I thought products (old days it was Kurust) that contained certain chemicals turned the rust black and into something else, magnesium something seems to ring a bell.
In my days of repair and spraying we did not do that, but cut out , fibre glassed, zinced or filled with lead.
Or a door skin.

checking net..


thats phosphoric acid or phosphate based chemicals like zinc phosphate pr magnesium phosphate..  but if the area is large or too small it adds extra cost of buying chemicals.. imo best method remove it and insulate it..

[omega3000]

I would cut out the rust then prime the area with a decent rust proofer . Ive done this , then use a fibre glass repair kit with alloy wire mesh to bridge any large holes 

[Terbs]

Thanks for the input fella's

Off to the pikey van in Dorset today for a fortnight. The Blue Omega can stand on the drive and rot for another couple of weeks. I'll use the gold one for this run.
Then it will be out with grinders , wet or dry, filler, fibre glass, zinc mesh etc.
Must remember to order the paint !!!!!. Probably use the son in law's compressor at Brackley, so cover up the silver bullet TB Not far as the crow flies, a few hundred yards at the most!!!

[dbug]

I thought products (old days it was Kurust) that contained certain chemicals turned the rust black and into something else, magnesium something seems to ring a bell.
In my days of repair and spraying we did not do that, but cut out , fibre glassed, zinced or filled with lead.
Or a door skin.

Kurust, and others, based on phosphoric acid - cheaper to use Coke (also contains phosphoric acid).  Mechanics (old style, back in the 60s) used to use Coke to free off rusty nuts and bolts

[Terbs]

Struth...you learn something every day

[tigers_gonads]

I thought products (old days it was Kurust) that contained certain chemicals turned the rust black and into something else, magnesium something seems to ring a bell.
In my days of repair and spraying we did not do that, but cut out , fibre glassed, zinced or filled with lead.
Or a door skin.

Kurust, and others, based on phosphoric acid - cheaper to use Coke (also contains phosphoric acid).  Mechanics (old style, back in the 60s) used to use Coke to free off rusty nuts and bolts

I still do use it to get rid of light rust on some parts.
In fact I had a pair of brake calipers in a bowl of cheapo lidl cola last year for a week.
Pulled them out when I got back off holiday and gave them a quick going over with a wire brush and they came up great.

Another tip for rusty nuts and bolts is ATF mixed with acetone