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[Stemo]

Given the age of the car, its likely that those bushes would be a) original, b) shagged to hell (either torn, or as Dr Gixer implies, separated, or most likely, both)

Aye  So exaggerated the car would have been going round a corner sideways like a crab if pushed 

Its difficult to notice until you've driven a tight one. But the sensation is along the lines of a tendency/feeling to oversteer, yet it doesn't, if that makes sense.

Obviously, the harder pushed, the more pronounced the effect.

Yeah i think  Im sure ill notice when its been done on thursday , they had the cheek to advise on rusty brake discs even though i told them its been off the road for 8 months  I tried my hardest to brake test it off 

How much are they going to sting you for, Mr Emd?....

I'm sure that nice Mr STMO will pay if you're short of a bob or two. He's loaded.

Send me the whole bill. I doubt they'd dare charge you more than the £50 that the car is worth.

[chrisgixer]

If the bushes have failed enough for an mot man to notice, the car will have been steering from the back for some time, causing numerous corrections at the steering wheel.

Speed or how hard it's pushed will not be the issue.

If it's gone unnoticed by the driver, then likely the rear sensations are matched by the front giving a boat like feel to the car when driving in a straight line at 30mph. Failed rear bushes alone give an awful feeling of disconnection from the rear wheels. Unless the fronts are failed as well. Then if the driver accepts that's how the car is normally, it will go unnoticed for years until something falls off, or mot time.

[aaronjb]

If it's gone unnoticed by the driver, then likely the rear sensations are matched by the front giving a boat like feel to the car when driving in a straight line at 30mph. Failed rear bushes alone give an awful feeling of disconnection from the rear wheels. Unless the fronts are failed as well. Then if the driver accepts that's how the car is normally, it will go unnoticed for years until something falls off, or mot time.

I can agree with that - having driven mine properly since you fitted the poly rear donuts for me it's now very noticeable that the car is only 'half' boat-like (the front end) rather than completely boat like..

[chrisgixer]

I find a fault with one end doesn't add up to half the problem fixed. Oddly.

 So you've still got 2/3rds boat there 

[aaronjb]

 

I prefer Land Yacht, really..

[omega3000]

If the bushes have failed enough for an mot man to notice, the car will have been steering from the back for some time, causing numerous corrections at the steering wheel.

Speed or how hard it's pushed will not be the issue.

If it's gone unnoticed by the driver, then likely the rear sensations are matched by the front giving a boat like feel to the car when driving in a straight line at 30mph. Failed rear bushes alone give an awful feeling of disconnection from the rear wheels. Unless the fronts are failed as well. Then if the driver accepts that's how the car is normally, it will go unnoticed for years until something falls off, or mot time.

None of that and thats why im suspecting they are trying it on  The old elite use to wander boat like so i know what you mean , having had this mv i noticed how sure footed and positive it was compared to the old boat elite . Lets see what if any change it has made IF they do actually change them 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

If the bushes have failed enough for an mot man to notice, the car will have been steering from the back for some time, causing numerous corrections at the steering wheel.

Speed or how hard it's pushed will not be the issue.

If it's gone unnoticed by the driver, then likely the rear sensations are matched by the front giving a boat like feel to the car when driving in a straight line at 30mph. Failed rear bushes alone give an awful feeling of disconnection from the rear wheels. Unless the fronts are failed as well. Then if the driver accepts that's how the car is normally, it will go unnoticed for years until something falls off, or mot time.

None of that and thats why im suspecting they are trying it on  The old elite use to wander boat like so i know what you mean , having had this mv i noticed how sure footed and positive it was compared to the old boat elite . Lets see what if any change it has made IF they do actually change them 

You'll have them by the balls if they charge for work they haven't done.

[omega3000]

If the bushes have failed enough for an mot man to notice, the car will have been steering from the back for some time, causing numerous corrections at the steering wheel.

Speed or how hard it's pushed will not be the issue.

If it's gone unnoticed by the driver, then likely the rear sensations are matched by the front giving a boat like feel to the car when driving in a straight line at 30mph. Failed rear bushes alone give an awful feeling of disconnection from the rear wheels. Unless the fronts are failed as well. Then if the driver accepts that's how the car is normally, it will go unnoticed for years until something falls off, or mot time.

None of that and thats why im suspecting they are trying it on  The old elite use to wander boat like so i know what you mean , having had this mv i noticed how sure footed and positive it was compared to the old boat elite . Lets see what if any change it has made IF they do actually change them 

You'll have them by the balls if they charge for work they haven't done.

I'll hand them the swear box when i drop the car off  If it takes more than an hour labour ill refuse to pay and of course inspect any work they did 

[05omegav6]

To be clear, did they mean the subframe donuts or the rear mounts

If it's the rear mounts, it will be interesting to see how they replace them as they're made from Grade 1 unobtainium, and I would go as far as to say that they failed because some idiot jacked it by the diff for the test... especially given that the car feels tight to drive

[05omegav6]

Idiot is not the word I typed btw...

[TheBoy]

Idiot is not the word I typed btw...

Nah, I bet you typed idiot, as I got censored on that word earlier

[TheBoy]

Idiot is not the word I typed btw...

Nah, I bet you typed idiot, as I got censored on that word earlier

FFS, that's not what I said

[05omegav6]

Idiot is not the word I typed btw...

Nah, I bet you typed idiot, as I got censored on that word earlier

Rhymes with Pat (as opposed to runt, which btw, is equally appropriate it they did jack it by the diff )

[omega3000]

To be clear, did they mean the subframe donuts or the rear mounts

If it's the rear mounts, it will be interesting to see how they replace them as they're made from Grade 1 unobtainium, and I would go as far as to say that they failed because some idiot jacked it by the diff for the test... especially given that the car feels tight to drive

Yep subframe donuts marked on the sheet 
Never jacked the up by the diff myself but dont know if they did or not , car felt no different on the way home 

[05omegav6]

Equally, if they charge more than £100 for parts, then you're better off fitting the Monaro bushes from Monkfish as they're £99+ postage

You're better off fitting them anyways, but that's a different conversation (the Monaro polys would also halve the labour rate as the tricky bit is digging the old bushes out, so don't discount them purely on parts cost... the total job price might be the same with a better result)