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[jimbobmccoy]

Had my second visit to the osteopath-he used what felt like a hammer but was actually called a deep tissue pounding machine, to try and tenderise me.

Has anyone else had this, as it was useless and I'm convinced it's hokum.

I got worried when he pulled my pants half down and said I'm just going to put some gel on!!

Thankfully it was just so he could use the 'sound machine' on my l5-s1 area.

This was equally as useless

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Had my second visit to the osteopath-he used what felt like a hammer but was actually called a deep tissue pounding machine, to try and tenderise me.

Has anyone else had this, as it was useless and I'm convinced it's hokum.

I got worried when he pulled my pants half down and said I'm just going to put some gel on!!

Thankfully it was just so he could use the 'sound machine' on my l5-s1 area.

This was equally as useless

Yep. I've used one in the past. She was so gentle that I felt no different, and despite her being very attractive I gave it up as a bad job after three or four sessions.

Sadly, she didn't pull my pants down.

[Gaffers]

Did he put both hands on your shouders?

[jimbobmccoy]

To be honest It was such a deep pounding it was hard to tell what touching me and where 

It's still very painful to talk about

I've been through the physio route-she was very attractive-also very useless.  I don't blame her, I think NHS physios are more geared up to deal with treating people recovering from injuries, not ongoing back problems.

Any views on acupuncture-it'd mean stopping platelet donating, but if it's that good may be a consideration?

[chrisgixer]

Acupuncture has not helped me in any way. Afaict. Bit I know some people who swear by it.

The pounding machine is more to help the physicians hands from the constant abuse from treating each patient. But the effect is the same in lessening the stiffness that follows the manipulation. Same as the electro stimulant of the muscles after manipulation. Its like a tense machine. Shocks the muscles out of memory and spasm. Like a reset.

If you think either don't help, try a manipulation without the before and after treatment and see if you seize up afterwards. (You will I promise)


Imo, based on experience, you want to avoid the heavy bone crunching and pounding if possible. It can be counter productive. But equally, it has a place where required. Which leads me a long standing annoyance.

Tbh, Mctimony, Physio, chiropractic, Osteopath. They all need there bloody heads banging together, and put themselves in a position where they can all apply treatment from each and any of those disciplines to suit what the patient needs. Not what they have chosen as an ethos and apply that regardless.

They all have very valid areas that work. But I bloody guarantee 70% of their patients need more than one of those treatments in the course of their recovery. Be that an injury or a long term problem.

Nhs refuse, or refused at one point, to recognise Cyhropractic as an accepted treatment, but in some areas its vital, but with side effects as its quite violent. So you can see there then that there's a path of escalation, on treatment. Physio is most gentle, Mctimony Cyhropractic more heavy but easy in the joints, Osteopath probably goes some way as a half way house, with Chyropractic top of the list.

So, why is it up to the patient to understand which does what, and which suits their needs best? Rediculous IMO.

But as for extra activity before and after manipulation. Go with it. And if your not twitching like a good un a, with the electro stimulants afterwards, than tell them to crank the bugger up.

[chrisgixer]

Ps. End of consultation. Where do I send my bill?

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Ps. End of consultation. Where do I send my bill?

Wonga are good at sending out fake bills....from bogus law firms.

Fooking crooks....  

[chrisgixer]

Ps. End of consultation. Where do I send my bill?

Wonga are good at sending out fake bills....from bogus law firms.

Fooking crooks....  

I'm not sure of your insinuance there Dr.

One might be led to believe that I'm not a genuine Dr.

[ronnyd]

Have you considered going to see a chiropractor.?

[05omegav6]

Dr Stemo will be disappointed when he sees this thread... the title looks right up his, er, street

[jimbobmccoy]

Have you considered going to see a chiropractor.?

Thanks for the info dr.gixer, I've erm, just got to wait for my tax return and I'll get the cheque in the post.

Day to day the main issues are general pain, spasm and discomfort in most back muscles, and then a bulging disc that seems to flare up and cause Agro at times.

Having spoke to someone else today I'm leaning towards trying regular sports massages and then pinning down what sets the disc off and cutting that out.

I've a referral to the orthopaedic dept, but as it's unlikely they'll operate, I'm not sure  it's worth their time-surely they'll just recommend physio or an osteopath anyway?

[jimbobmccoy]

Dr Stemo will be disappointed when he sees this thread... the title looks right up his, er, street

Haha. 

If he saw me when it's bad-the only comfortable stance is bent over, leaning On a kitchen work top-he'd not know what to do with himself ( or his little feller [vomiting smiley here])