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[tunnie]

I reckon you're better off with a better lid, tunnie.

I originally got my Shoei, based on comfort and fact it's a decent brand. It's still very comfy, but in the changeable conditions of the commute and fact it's directly into the sun each eay, I'd find a flip down sunshade very handy.

I removed the large screen, I've got a much smaller one now. Wind noise is the same though. Found the smaller one much better for visibility in and commuting, see better and gives much view when doing those tight London filters.

Putting hands around various parts of the helmet, I can reduce the noise. As said to Chris, it does not pull me ears off any more, it goes on maybe a little too easy. Does not rub against my ears going on/off.

Quite like Shoei GT Air, but big bucks

http://www.helmetcity.co.uk/products/Shoei-GT%252dAir-Regalia-TC%252d2-2014-%26-Free-Gifts.html

[tunnie]

Think need to go to a 'proper' bike shop, place locally not really interested in how things fit. Just sell in bulk.

My test at the time was hold lid still, should not be able to turn your head. 

[TheBoy]

but in the changeable conditions of the commute and fact it's directly into the sun each eay, I'd find a flip down sunshade very handy.

Fully understand that, but the best fit (as opposed to "good enough") is the primary concern.

I too used to commute into the sun (well, I still do, just I don't have a bike ), do understand - I used to carry 2 visors, as you know, and make a judgement on which is best before setting out...   ...of if it was too changeable, used the clear one, and a set of CHiPs style sunglasses that I kept in that cubby hole on the ZX10, and could put on or off whilst going along 

[tunnie]

Tried sunglasses, they mist up too easily. 

Correct fit is my first concern, tried some earlier today which have a flippable sun shade, but fit was not right. 

[Vamps]

but in the changeable conditions of the commute and fact it's directly into the sun each eay, I'd find a flip down sunshade very handy.

Fully understand that, but the best fit (as opposed to "good enough") is the primary concern.

I too used to commute into the sun (well, I still do, just I don't have a bike ), do understand - I used to carry 2 visors, as you know, and make a judgement on which is best before setting out...   ...of if it was too changeable, used the clear one, and a set of CHiPs style sunglasses that I kept in that cubby hole on the ZX10, and could put on or off whilst going along 

Your not as young as I thought........

[TheBoy]

but in the changeable conditions of the commute and fact it's directly into the sun each eay, I'd find a flip down sunshade very handy.

Fully understand that, but the best fit (as opposed to "good enough") is the primary concern.

I too used to commute into the sun (well, I still do, just I don't have a bike ), do understand - I used to carry 2 visors, as you know, and make a judgement on which is best before setting out...   ...of if it was too changeable, used the clear one, and a set of CHiPs style sunglasses that I kept in that cubby hole on the ZX10, and could put on or off whilst going along 

Your not as young as I thought........

Essential Saturday afternoon viewing at the time...

[Vamps]

but in the changeable conditions of the commute and fact it's directly into the sun each eay, I'd find a flip down sunshade very handy.

Fully understand that, but the best fit (as opposed to "good enough") is the primary concern.

I too used to commute into the sun (well, I still do, just I don't have a bike ), do understand - I used to carry 2 visors, as you know, and make a judgement on which is best before setting out...   ...of if it was too changeable, used the clear one, and a set of CHiPs style sunglasses that I kept in that cubby hole on the ZX10, and could put on or off whilst going along 

Your not as young as I thought........

Essential Saturday afternoon viewing at the time...

 

[tunnie]

but in the changeable conditions of the commute and fact it's directly into the sun each eay, I'd find a flip down sunshade very handy.

Fully understand that, but the best fit (as opposed to "good enough") is the primary concern.

I too used to commute into the sun (well, I still do, just I don't have a bike ), do understand - I used to carry 2 visors, as you know, and make a judgement on which is best before setting out...   ...of if it was too changeable, used the clear one, and a set of CHiPs style sunglasses that I kept in that cubby hole on the ZX10, and could put on or off whilst going along 

You also had speakers in your helmet, blasting tunes out and used as phone. I route I personally would not go down, as speakers are over powering surroundings.

That said, I really do need to try new lids. I rode back from shop without ear plugs, even 30-40mph the wind noise was considerable, 70mph would be unbearable. Sometimes on the commute the plugs have slipped out, my ear would have slight ringing when I got home, so way too loud.

[tunnie]

I don't think the dirty air from the screen helps, because if I stand up on the pegs, the noise is reduced massively, as I'm in clean air.

Took screen off for a laugh, rode without one. Hardly any wind noise, but little too much wind blast 

[TheBoy]

You also had speakers in your helmet, blasting tunes out and used as phone. I route I personally would not go down, as speakers are over powering surroundings.

And have happily held phone conversations at *cough* speed. So whilst I can't condone phone usage whilst riding, it does show that the helmet kept the wind noise out . Also, not that you'd fit my helmet (ooo-err missus), but you'd be surprised how quiet it was all set.

That said, I really do need to try new lids. I rode back from shop without ear plugs, even 30-40mph the wind noise was considerable, 70mph would be unbearable. Sometimes on the commute the plugs have slipped out, my ear would have slight ringing when I got home, so way too loud.

I used to use plugs with my previous helmet (just the yellow disposable ones), and:
a) found them to be a little too effective
b) prone to falling out (not completely, just shifting enough to allow too much noise in), maybe I have funny ears
c) can confirm that a properly fitted helmet does really make a difference

[TheBoy]

I don't think the dirty air from the screen helps, because if I stand up on the pegs, the noise is reduced massively, as I'm in clean air.

Took screen off for a laugh, rode without one. Hardly any wind noise, but little too much wind blast 

My bike that you knew had a non OE screen, which was much smaller than OE.

Being fully faired, its impossible to say if the shape does help keep air away from the rider  .  But I'd say not as much as your full screen.

[tunnie]

Ditched full screen, got one fraction of the size. I think the air is hitting underside of the helmet, sending air into it. As stuffing stock up one side, really helped today.

As I'm happy with screen position in terms of body buffeting, just noise is the problem. I could make screen lower I guess, so airflow hits my chest, rather than further up 

But as you said a decent lid should not allow air/noise there, no matter how screen is positioned 

[tunnie]

Good review of this..

http://dailybikers.com/shoei-gt-air-helmet-review/

[TheBoy]

For your particular problem, I don't think reviews are worthwhile. Its too personal.

[tunnie]

For your particular problem, I don't think reviews are worthwhile. Its too personal.

Humm, thing is problem is 60-80.

Around town it's silent, up to 55/60 it's ok too. Only when speed limit goes motorway and you roll on the speed does it get too loud.

Because it's fine less than 60, but higher is problem, wondering if that does point to lid? (rather than screen position) As said before standing up a little on the pegs and massive reduction in noise.