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[cleggy]

Now just an idea, but students have to take a loan for their education and pay it back when they are earning enough money (OK it's not perfect but bear with me).
So why not make benefits a loan to be paid back when people are in a job? Just look at the woman from a TV programme on benefits and is now getting a reported 100k to appear on another TV programme, shouldn't she pay back what the state paid her?

[Bigron]

Isn't that the woman who had her tits done on the NHS because being small "damaged her confidence", then claimed £300 per year for taxis to take her kids to school because people stared at her on public transport?

Ron.

[hercules]

Now just an idea, but students have to take a loan for their education and pay it back when they are earning enough money (OK it's not perfect but bear with me).
So why not make benefits a loan to be paid back when people are in a job? Just look at the woman from a TV programme on benefits and is now getting a reported 100k to appear on another TV programme, shouldn't she pay back what the state paid her?

totally agree theres many spongers out who treat the system like a job but there is your honest man whos worked 35 year and made reduntant now hes paid enough in to be looked after in my eyes,fat lazy bitches like her shouldn't be celebritized (if that's a word haha)and it needs the human touch to decide who is taking piss and who deserves it

[Sir Tigger KC]

It's not a bad idea Cleggy!    You should write in to the Daily Mail with that! 

They might offer you a job as a columnist! 

[Steve B]

It's not a bad idea Cleggy!    You should write in to the Daily Mail with that! 

They might offer you a job as a columnist! 

[drinksoptional]

7% of claims are fraud .

Working tax or  family tax credits is a benifit.

Basing opinion on what you read in papers or  bullcrap tv programs when mps  buy n sell houses paid for by taxpayers  who get all they can paid for while disabled folk and thier families suffer , ir folk who have worked but lost thier job  through no fault of thier own
Pensioners
carers of disabled people  .
There is more to benifts than this crap showin on these programs  ,jeremy kyle or right wing newspapets.
The high life of less than 70 quid a week  wow these folk or really living it wild

the cuts in credits forcing working familes to use foodbanks is the joke , this very small minority taking the pee  has been used to pass these reforms through  from folk that can claim expensese illegally and only have to say a half hearted sorry.

Wish they would show the real side of benifits instead of picking the bad ones

[biggriffin]

7% of claims are fraud .

Working tax or  family tax credits is a benifit.

Basing opinion on what you read in papers or  bullcrap tv programs when mps  buy n sell houses paid for by taxpayers  who get all they can paid for while disabled folk and thier families suffer , ir folk who have worked but lost thier job  through no fault of thier own
Pensioners
carers of disabled people  .
There is more to benifts than this crap showin on these programs  ,jeremy kyle or right wing newspapets.
The high life of less than 70 quid a week  wow these folk or really living it wild

the cuts in credits forcing working familes to use foodbanks is the joke , this very small minority taking the pee  has been used to pass these reforms through  from folk that can claim expensese illegally and only have to say a half hearted sorry.

Wish they would show the real side of benifits instead of picking the bad ones

my new blood pressure raiser.
every time they put these places on the tv or the news crews turn up,we see the usual suspects, all smoking, txeting on there I-phone and sitting in there undecorated council house,watching sky tv on a flat screen tv. While the rugrats play on the tablet,as the pit bull terrier, farts in the corner.and Mr hardup, says "we find it hard to live on benifits,so we go foodbank"
    

[Rog]

Now just an idea, but students have to take a loan for their education and pay it back when they are earning enough money (OK it's not perfect but bear with me).
So why not make benefits a loan to be paid back when people are in a job? Just look at the woman from a TV programme on benefits and is now getting a reported 100k to appear on another TV programme, shouldn't she pay back what the state paid her?

I get your point, but surely this would put them off getting a job even more  ?

[cleggy]

Now just an idea, but students have to take a loan for their education and pay it back when they are earning enough money (OK it's not perfect but bear with me).
So why not make benefits a loan to be paid back when people are in a job? Just look at the woman from a TV programme on benefits and is now getting a reported 100k to appear on another TV programme, shouldn't she pay back what the state paid her?

I get your point, but surely this would put them off getting a job even more  ?

Not if you deducted the amount they pay for their phone, broadband and Sky from the benefit.

[drinksoptional]

so  every person on benifits lives like that ?

This one sided opinion of benifts does my head in , i love this ability that  you can see a persons life just by looking at them.  How society can tar every one with the same brush  unless you can see into thier lifes you cant judge . These programs  are designed to  make you angry  like that benifts street    the truth   no one would give half of them a job anyway .

Chucking mud at folk that`s the nature of the Uk now we all sit judge and jury .

Thats the issue every one is  put in the same box.

My mum worked all her  adult life  got  cancer  in her breast   had to quit her job   applied for benifits got told  no been sick long enough  she went through the chemo and had both her breast removed  and is now recovering

Now does this make her an scrounger   .... No  her circumstance changed   now she had sky tv  , a laptop  mobilephone   before  and after ... Catch yer self on    really this is how you base an opinion.

Another example  guy was self employed  his wife took ill  with a neuro condition   and his child  was having behavior issue  guy gave up work to be a carer for his sick wife  his child would tantrum for days  and struggled through nursery and school  that the child wasnt there  turned out was autism    .  guy now a carer 24-7  should he  live in poverty or without any lurxury  just because he is on benifits  he wont have the luxury of a health wife or a normal  child ?


Mate lost his job  through bad health   had to  sign on  as he had a family he had six  kids  yet never  claimed in his life and wife  worked . Suddelnly he is the gy on benifts with six kids the scounger.

The idea that every one on  benifts is scrounging or has sky   or tablets is load of crap i know penty of folk  on benifts who are activily seeking work  living in  poverty  one is know who has lived on bread who had been to uni  and now struggling to get a job .

And yer foodbank statment  its not just those on benifits  that use them  , there is plenty of familes struggling due to the tax credits changes that are using them who are in employment .


You see them at the supermarket  scanning folk who park in disabled spots like the average joe can give a medical assment to every person that parks or know if they a carer or not.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

As a socialist I like to believe that most people who claim benefits are in genuine need. Of course, the system will always be abused by a small minority, and 'trash television' such as that seen on channel 5 about people on benefits certainly doesn't help.

The 16 year old pregnant girl shown last week was constantly referred to by the narrator as  'the unemployed teenage mother to be on benefits'..... Thus further angering the 'blue rinse geriatrics' who read The Daily Mail.   

Having said that these people don't help themselves by volunteering for this TV trash in the first instance.
 

[biggriffin]

The benefits system is designed to assist people thro times of hardship, and get them back on there feet and back to work, or genuinely help those who have fallen on hard times, but a percentage of people have found it a life choice,and proudly boast about it, we all see scroungers every day, claiming they have nothing, then we see all the electronic gadgets,and the fags,and tins off beer.  basically if you can afford luxuries, you aren't poor or on the bread line.
when most of us find times hard we cut back,and make sacrifices, luxuries have to go,..

The member above needs to read the posts.
Rant over.

[TheBoy]

When I was a service engineer in the 80s and 90s, the number of people who have made a career from living on benefits was astounding.  I was naïve enough beforehand to believe it was a small minority, but its not.

Some people, able enough to work, do not see why they should, and that the "Rich People" should subsidise them. Trouble is, we don't have enough Rich People.

[tigers_gonads]

Oh dearly me, so you think that program represents Hull and people on benefits around here do you 

Let me enlighten you on a few things about that program shall I

All the participants was literally head hunted by the production team iaw circumstances.
For example, 1 x young unmarried mother who is unemployed, 1 x bloke with his head up his arse because of past problems who has been out of work for years ect.

Nobody received a penny for any of it.
The only thing anybody got out of it was a cheep pub lunch paid for by Chanel 5 because that is were they was asked to meet up.

Every person who opened there mouth on that program was coached by the production team as to what to say and how to say it on the pretence that the world out there is tarring them all with the same brush and the program was been made to put across the true story of people on benefits.

As for jobs in this city, i'll stick a brief(ish) history of my city on here sometime so maybe you people who are lucky enough to have a job and live in an area were they are jobs  / governments spend money to promote jobs might learn something 

[biggriffin]

Time to get shot.

there's plenty of jobs in hull. If eastern Europeans can travel 1000miles to get a job why cant the local unemployed travel 3miles to get a job.