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[D]

I'll give you tank space, although upright toroidal options need exploring more on here.
And I'll give you fuddled women.


Oof solves ALL others.


( loads of garages round here, and can usually find one without much agro tbh. )

What about a non omega or a newly acquired car? Would you LPG it with as much confidence?

This one?

[chrisgixer]

Question is, why wouldn't YOU?

[cem_devecioglu]

honestly, I wouldnt prefer my car to be drilled here and there.. 


also even the omega is an fairly known car,  some problems cant be pointed that much easy and obviously lpg installation complicates the case and requires further "investigation" 


but answering the title.. diesel never..  I would much prefer lpg

[chrisgixer]

honestly, I wouldnt prefer my car to be drilled here and there.. 

Usually a sign of a lazy fitter. There are numerous options for the filler, from number plate flaps to under toeing eye covers to along side the petrol filler under the filler flap.

The trick is to buy the car that suits LPG, not just by any old car and hope it works.

As far as I'm aware;
 Avoid anything French, which goes without saying anyway.
Avoid anything ford as the seats are too soft, this includes Jaguar. Sadly. Especially the mondeo jags.
BMW. Will take take LPG but expect the eml to be on constantly due to overly tight and fussy engine management parameters.

Frankly if your that fussy about filter locations you can't moan about fuel prices.

[05omegav6]

Hence the consideration of a 1.8 Zafira... engine converts well, spare wheel is underslung, which increases tank options, and with a tow bar no need to drill any of the bodywork for the filler, and all the plumbing is outside the car, so fewer installation considerations...

[BazaJT]

Unfortunately lpg is not a viable option for me,on the grounds that I just don't do the mileage to justify/offset the cost of having the system installed.

[05omegav6]

Depends how much fuel you get through, but you'll save 50p on every litre you buy from the moment the system is installed... And if you live somewhere a bit rural you can get a tank installed which would probably save you another 10-15ppl

[Sir Tigger KC]

Unfortunately lpg is not a viable option for me,on the grounds that I just don't do the mileage to justify/offset the cost of having the system installed.

Buy a car that's already had a system installed. 

[D]

Usually a sign of a lazy fitter. There are numerous options for the filler, from number plate flaps to under toeing eye covers to along side the petrol filler under the filler flap.

The trick is to buy the car that suits LPG, not just by any old car and hope it works.

As far as I'm aware;
 Avoid anything French, which goes without saying anyway.
Avoid anything ford as the seats are too soft, this includes Jaguar. Sadly. Especially the mondeo jags.
BMW. Will take take LPG but expect the eml to be on constantly due to overly tight and fussy engine management parameters.

Frankly if your that fussy about filter locations you can't moan about fuel prices.

Ok, so LPG limits my buying options. Surely not a great thing is it?

Also with so many manufacturers moving to direct injection with a dearth of LPG systems that can handle direct injection, I suspect LPG will die soon, unless you can overcome this issue.

[andrew38]

Also with so many manufacturers moving to direct injection with a dearth of LPG systems that can handle direct injection, I suspect LPG will die soon, unless you can overcome this issue.

This has already been overcome by Prins for some manufacturers like Audi and even GM direct injection engine, they do a direct injection lpg liquid system which uses the cars original fuel injectors, does away with the inefficient vapour systems currently in use think its called liquigas V2 or something similar.

[Entwood]

Also with so many manufacturers moving to direct injection with a dearth of LPG systems that can handle direct injection, I suspect LPG will die soon, unless you can overcome this issue.

This has already been overcome by Prins for some manufacturers like Audi and even GM direct injection engine, they do a direct injection lpg liquid system which uses the cars original fuel injectors, does away with the inefficient vapour systems currently in use think its called liquigas V2 or something similar.

Close ...

LiquiMax ....   

http://www.prinsautogas.com/en/products/directliquimax_system/directliquimax_system.html

[andrew38]

Thats the one, brain turned to mush as I posted. Not read any reviews on it but looks interesting. I did a piece on different LPG induction systems for powerboats a few years back and the system was just starting to be developed. I particually liked it because it did not compromise efficiently like the current vapour systems do, though I would imagine the trick is keep the LPG in liquid form to the injectors, I would like to see the system in operation.

[cem_devecioglu]

Also with so many manufacturers moving to direct injection with a dearth of LPG systems that can handle direct injection, I suspect LPG will die soon, unless you can overcome this issue.

This has already been overcome by Prins for some manufacturers like Audi and even GM direct injection engine, they do a direct injection lpg liquid system which uses the cars original fuel injectors, does away with the inefficient vapour systems currently in use think its called liquigas V2 or something similar.

yep.. but imo still too early .. when I asked prices were sky high for prins and teleflex..

[chrisgixer]

Too high for who though? If you can afford an amg 6.3 Merc
 

[chrisgixer]

Usually a sign of a lazy fitter. There are numerous options for the filler, from number plate flaps to under toeing eye covers to along side the petrol filler under the filler flap.

The trick is to buy the car that suits LPG, not just by any old car and hope it works.

As far as I'm aware;
 Avoid anything French, which goes without saying anyway.
Avoid anything ford as the seats are too soft, this includes Jaguar. Sadly. Especially the mondeo jags.
BMW. Will take take LPG but expect the eml to be on constantly due to overly tight and fussy engine management parameters.

Frankly if your that fussy about filter locations you can't moan about fuel prices.

Ok, so LPG limits my buying options. Surely not a great thing is it?

Also with so many manufacturers moving to direct injection with a dearth of LPG systems that can handle direct injection, I suspect LPG will die soon, unless you can overcome this issue.

...and one has to wonder, given this huge list of dislikes D has for LPG, why he chose to get his own omega converted to gas? The big Mary.