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[tigers_gonads]

Quick question about the (non Bose) OEM audio fitted to the omega.

I believe the general consensus seems to be that the head units are of a reasonable quality BUT lack grunt to drive a decent speaker 
After dribbling over admiring Stu C's install, I have been looking into upgrading mine.

I have fitted 2 sets of Infinity components that I have had for a few years. These sound far better then the oem stuff but lack punch when turned up    I love my rock music 

Well on my t'nternet travels, I found this 

http://www.incarexpress.co.uk/view_product.php?partno=KTP445

As far as I can see, its just a 4 way amp that sits inline with an Alpine head unit wiring loom.

Now i'm thinking that maybe this could be spliced into the standard NCDC wiring loom 
If so, it would give a reasonably easy way of boosting the available grunt down the existing speaker wiring and driving some decent speakers   

What do you lot think ?

[TheBoy]

If decent speakers are fitted, the standard unit sounds OK at "normal" sound levels. But if you're after more...

Speaker level output, so you need an amp that can do that.

Lastly, as these were only ever fitted to Elites (Vec-C had different screens), if you bought it paired to an Omega screen, check its not Bose'd, which reduces output levels

[tigers_gonads]

If decent speakers are fitted, the standard unit sounds OK at "normal" sound levels. But if you're after more...

Speaker level output, so you need an amp that can do that.

Lastly, as these were only ever fitted to Elites (Vec-C had different screens), if you bought it paired to an Omega screen, check its not Bose'd, which reduces output levels

I used to fit a pioneer one to any installs I did back in the late 80's but not seen one for years hence this attracting my attention.

I've not got a lot of wonga to play with so was looking at something like this that could be slaved in easy / stashed behind the glove box and maybe at a later date, using a Audiocontrol LC7 type contraption with a separate small amp driving a small sub in the side compartment were the Bose sub would have been fitted 

Since I have a estate and tend to use all the load space so space to install separate amps is at a premium 
Making a false floor is a no no because i've already raised the floor to incorporate the donut lpg tank 

[05omegav6]

I was considering burying three disc changers under the false floor as a side effect of fitting a donut tank in the estate... a quick redesign of that dead space should free up potential

[TheBoy]

Not sure how big your amps are, but couldn't they fit where the bose amp would go, in the cubby hole?

[tigers_gonads]

I was considering burying three disc changers under the false floor as a side effect of fitting a donut tank in the estate... a quick redesign of that dead space should free up potential

I thought of that tbh Al but the false floor is only raised by 50mm plus the thickness of the hardboard so I wouldn't have thought you could lay a amp under there without it getting too warm 
I don't really want to bring it up anymore and loose more space, the pigging dog bangs his head on the roof as it is 

Anyway, thanks for the replies lads BUT as a nice cheapish and convenient way of getting more grunt down to the 4 door speakers using the existing wiring, will that Alpine amp I mentioned do the job ? (with a little bit if playing about) 

Also, has anybody got any pickys of the Bose sub install on a facelift estate so I can see how / where it goes in  ?

Cheers 

[05omegav6]

I was considering burying three disc changers under the false floor as a side effect of fitting a donut tank in the estate... a quick redesign of that dead space should free up potential

I thought of that tbh Al but the false floor is only raised by 50mm plus the thickness of the hardboard so I wouldn't have thought you could lay a amp under there without it getting too warm 
I don't really want to bring it up anymore and loose more space, the pigging dog bangs his head on the roof as it is 

Anyway, thanks for the replies lads BUT as a nice cheapish and convenient way of getting more grunt down to the 4 door speakers using the existing wiring, will that Alpine amp I mentioned do the job ? (with a little bit if playing about) 

Also, has anybody got any pickys of the Bose sub install on a facelift estate so I can see how / where it goes in  ?

Cheers 

Open the tailgate, then open the right hand cubby hole... what you see is what you get... the sub pretty much fills that space

Not sure where the amp goes though tother side perhaps, hence the wheel arch cubbies on the Elite

As for the dog, have you considered a smaller one? That said, STMO only has a Westie, yet felt the need to buy a Daewoo van to cart it around in...

[tigers_gonads]

I was considering burying three disc changers under the false floor as a side effect of fitting a donut tank in the estate... a quick redesign of that dead space should free up potential

I thought of that tbh Al but the false floor is only raised by 50mm plus the thickness of the hardboard so I wouldn't have thought you could lay a amp under there without it getting too warm 
I don't really want to bring it up anymore and loose more space, the pigging dog bangs his head on the roof as it is 

Anyway, thanks for the replies lads BUT as a nice cheapish and convenient way of getting more grunt down to the 4 door speakers using the existing wiring, will that Alpine amp I mentioned do the job ? (with a little bit if playing about) 

Also, has anybody got any pickys of the Bose sub install on a facelift estate so I can see how / where it goes in  ?

Cheers 

Open the tailgate, then open the right hand cubby hole... what you see is what you get... the sub pretty much fills that space

Not sure where the amp goes though tother side perhaps, hence the wheel arch cubbies on the Elite

As for the dog, have you considered a smaller one? That said, STMO only has a Westie, yet felt the need to buy a Daewoo van to cart it around in...

'dangle berries' it wont go in there, some muppet drilled a bloody big hole in the side of the car and mounted the LPG filler there 

Had a dig around in the hole on the left hand side and found a 4 pin plug / loom so that's probably were the amp goes 

A Westie's not a dog, its a piggin hand bag accessory 
If I ever work out how to stick pickys on here, i'll stick a few of my beast on 

[05omegav6]

You could use spacer sleeves and longer bolts to mount the amp into the boot rather than into the wing won't encroach on boot space any more than a disc changer

[tigers_gonads]

Oh well, that dream has just gone out of the window 

Piggin oil cooler has totally gone now 
Ended up popping 8 Ariel liquid tabs in it while on a day trip yesterday just to stop the engine top end melting due to coolant starvation after the stat opened 

Bloody good stuff this Ariel, bottle went from full of gunge and running very hot too totally clear and running at a nice 85 deg within 50 miles 
Smells nice and fresh too 

At least I know how to flush it now