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[TheBoy]

Guess what I've been writing tonight, how spooky

[Marks DTM Calib]

Actually, the modern thoughts are to keep it to two pages. 

That has been the case for some time, but for an individual with a longish career three can be needed;

1st page - Profile /Disciplines

2nd page - Employment history

3rd page - Qualifications / Professional Development / Education

 

Actually no, as the older items will be considered irrelevant and hence should be listed and little else 

[the alarming man]

Actually, the modern thoughts are to keep it to two pages. 

deffo 2 pages any more get binned

[Marks DTM Calib]

Actually, the modern thoughts are to keep it to two pages. 

deffo 2 pages any more get binned

Yep, seen it done and its standard policy where I work (but hey we are only a tiny company  )

[the alarming man]

Actually, the modern thoughts are to keep it to two pages. 

deffo 2 pages any more get binned

Yep, seen it done and its standard policy where I work (but hey we are only a tiny company  )

we are a tiny set up as well but again standard policy...mind you 3 pages something to wipe your ar$e on..lol

[the alarming man]

Actually, the modern thoughts are to keep it to two pages. 

That has been the case for some time, but for an individual with a longish career three can be needed;

1st page - Profile /Disciplines

2nd page - Employment history

3rd page - Qualifications / Professional Development / Education

 

You are wrong Lizzie

2 pages MAX or it will go straight in the bin 

If like me, you have done shed loads, keep it brief and simple.

As for the personnel statement, this is mine 

It may be total bullshit but it will get you noticed which is the point.
Feel free to use it 

I class myself as a highly motivated, loyal and hardworking individual who is perfectly happy working as a part of a team, leading a team or on my own initiative.
I am physically fit and not afraid to get my hands dirty to complete any task given to me.
I spent over 20 years interacting with my customers on a 1 to 1 level, either face to face or over the telephone, planning jobs and executing these jobs.
I am computer literate with experience in computer build.
I also have very good experience of Microsoft Office.
I have always taken pride in working to a high standard and with precision in all tasks.
I am hoping to work in an environment where I am rewarded and respected for what I can bring to the table.

As for job history, it should be in chronological order.
Keep it brief BUT expand on the skills depending on what job your after 

Stick something after the job history like ................  A more complete breakdown of job descriptions is available on request 
Make the last statement, bold type but keep the font size the same 

Also, I don't know how old you are but if your approaching middle age like me    leave your date of birth OFF the CV.
That way, its not binned straight away and IF you get a interview it gives you a chance of blagging it "face to face" 

I've had mine totally re done in the last 2 months by TIR training were I am at the moment.
If I can help, pm me.

Good luck 

If I am in this new age Tigers then I'm afraid a potential employer of a middle or senior manager is not getting the full gist on who the person is and what they can do. A trick or two can be missed, and believe me agencies of various types can do that as they are constantly putting time and money first, not what the quality is and right for your company. As a company manager interviewing for staff to enter your company your objective is to obtain quality, and not thinking about what commission you will get. A good personnel manager of experience can very speedily sort the quality from the trash when going through CV's, no matter how big the pile is, focusing on key factors. If the CV is less than 2 pages, and ideally 3, then the experienced managerial applicant may well miss out vital information that is crucial to your decision making.

Perhaps with unemployment falling there will be less applicants and interviewers, like myself not that long ago, will be able to again spend just a few seconds more on digesting a good CV. It is only a few seconds more, and if you are interviewing someone for certainly a managerial position you need that information before wasting your time drawing up a short list of the wrong applicants who at interview fall down.  You then are retracing your step, rearranging new short lists and interviews. Then you lose the best applicants to your competitors.

If the CV and interviewing standards have declined to such a weak level it is no wonder this country is still losing companies that fail to manage their affairs and stay profitable by having square pegs in round holes.

that's the thing if you are interviewing someone and asking the right questions it can tell you volumes...and If the correct questions are asked and you are a decent interviewer nothing will be missed

[Marks DTM Calib]

Actually, the modern thoughts are to keep it to two pages. 

deffo 2 pages any more get binned

Yep, seen it done and its standard policy where I work (but hey we are only a tiny company  )

we are a tiny set up as well but again standard policy...mind you 3 pages something to wipe your ar$e on..lol

We have about 19,000 .......in the Uk alone!

[X30XE]

Of the 30+ candidates I've interviewed this year, I've found there is almost no correlation between the quality of a candidate's CV and their actual ability or willingness to do anything.  You can't polish a turd... as they say.

Also, from experience I'd advise you choose your next boss, not your next job.  If your boss is a Richard you'll be going nowhere fast even if the job is all that and a box of biscuits. 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Actually, the modern thoughts are to keep it to two pages. 

That has been the case for some time, but for an individual with a longish career three can be needed;

1st page - Profile /Disciplines

2nd page - Employment history

3rd page - Qualifications / Professional Development / Education

 

You are wrong Lizzie

2 pages MAX or it will go straight in the bin 

If like me, you have done shed loads, keep it brief and simple.

As for the personnel statement, this is mine 

It may be total bullshit but it will get you noticed which is the point.
Feel free to use it 

I class myself as a highly motivated, loyal and hardworking individual who is perfectly happy working as a part of a team, leading a team or on my own initiative.
I am physically fit and not afraid to get my hands dirty to complete any task given to me.
I spent over 20 years interacting with my customers on a 1 to 1 level, either face to face or over the telephone, planning jobs and executing these jobs.
I am computer literate with experience in computer build.
I also have very good experience of Microsoft Office.
I have always taken pride in working to a high standard and with precision in all tasks.
I am hoping to work in an environment where I am rewarded and respected for what I can bring to the table.

As for job history, it should be in chronological order.
Keep it brief BUT expand on the skills depending on what job your after 

Stick something after the job history like ................  A more complete breakdown of job descriptions is available on request 
Make the last statement, bold type but keep the font size the same 

Also, I don't know how old you are but if your approaching middle age like me    leave your date of birth OFF the CV.
That way, its not binned straight away and IF you get a interview it gives you a chance of blagging it "face to face" 

I've had mine totally re done in the last 2 months by TIR training were I am at the moment.
If I can help, pm me.

Good luck 

If I am in this new age Tigers then I'm afraid a potential employer of a middle or senior manager is not getting the full gist on who the person is and what they can do. A trick or two can be missed, and believe me agencies of various types can do that as they are constantly putting time and money first, not what the quality is and right for your company. As a company manager interviewing for staff to enter your company your objective is to obtain quality, and not thinking about what commission you will get. A good personnel manager of experience can very speedily sort the quality from the trash when going through CV's, no matter how big the pile is, focusing on key factors. If the CV is less than 2 pages, and ideally 3, then the experienced managerial applicant may well miss out vital information that is crucial to your decision making.

Perhaps with unemployment falling there will be less applicants and interviewers, like myself not that long ago, will be able to again spend just a few seconds more on digesting a good CV. It is only a few seconds more, and if you are interviewing someone for certainly a managerial position you need that information before wasting your time drawing up a short list of the wrong applicants who at interview fall down.  You then are retracing your step, rearranging new short lists and interviews. Then you lose the best applicants to your competitors.

If the CV and interviewing standards have declined to such a weak level it is no wonder this country is still losing companies that fail to manage their affairs and stay profitable by having square pegs in round holes.

that's the thing if you are interviewing someone and asking the right questions it can tell you volumes...and If the correct questions are asked and you are a decent interviewer nothing will be missed

You don't say!

I was talking at that point of my screed of the preparation for a good interview by having as much information as possible that is not only crucial in the interview but can assist in some research before hand on any aspect that may be an issue. At the interview you then home in and establish the actual truth compared to what you are being told, which again you can follow up on if the candidate is a potential match. Being thorough should be.a prime objective by the interviewer. Believe me I have had many interviewees try and pull the wool over my eyes on the CV but because of my diligence I have obtained the truth.

[dbug]

As a senior manager/company director before I retired, well used to dealing with CVs.  As said anything more than 2 pages - file in bin.  If the first page does not grab attention - don't bother with second page - file in bin.  Reading CVs costs management time and hence money.

Remember the CV is a means of getting a job interview - the job interview gets you the job not the CV

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Ok, you all win and you are all right, two pages, no more!

I seem to have been out voted, but I am from a different age

I'll now have to yet again, for the hundredth time, re-draft mine; hang on though I probably won't need it now

[05omegav6]

On a related note, was asked today what I felt 'Diversity' meant...

Over to are Northern office...

[Varche]

On a related note, was asked today what I felt 'Diversity' meant...

Over to are Northern office...

Troupe of acrobats?

[Rog]

And along the same lines . . . .

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29122510

Always remember the adage "First impressions count". It is completely and totally true. Whether it's you in person, or your written CV.

I recall many years ago I put on my CV " Dairy Products Sales Executive"     

Translation . . . . . Milkman !

I got the job, but CVs and presentation were not as important then, gratefully

 

[the alarming man]

On a related note, was asked today what I felt 'Diversity' meant...

Over to are Northern office...

think you may well be on the next diversity awareness course Al