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[Marks DTM Calib]

Ah, the noise of 4 olympus 201's.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1VVlvoMUas

[psychnurse]

Ah, the noise of 4 olympus 201's.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1VVlvoMUas

Music to the ears  

[bedders]

I think it was the Avro York which was the civilian version of the Lancaster. A chap I used to work with was a navigator on them, and was flying back & forth to India with plane loads of Diplomats during the time India was vying for Independance.
End of Empire & all that.

[bedders]

The Shackleton had Griffon engines, (with contra rotating props) which were a later & much more powerful version of the Merlin. So powerful in fact, they could actually fly on 1 engine.

Thanks for that great info Bedders!  Yes I well remember watching Shackelton's over Malta practising shutting down their engines and flying around with a few props 'feathering', although I cannot recall now them going down to just one. What a lovely sound they made though, and I can still clearly see and hear it in my mind  This is when I get very emotional!

There was a series of documentaries of British icons some years ago, London Taxi, Routemaster, Shackleton etc. & like a sad person, I taped the Shackleton documentary, & on the various bits of old film, it showed one doing a low pass down the runway, at, I assume, an airshow, with only one engine powered up!
They also mentioned the incredible endurance, which was I think, about 20 hours. They smelled of leather & hydraulic fluid according to one crew member (a bit like my Omega)

[HolyCount]

The Shackleton had Griffon engines, (with contra rotating props) which were a later & much more powerful version of the Merlin. So powerful in fact, they could actually fly on 1 engine.

Thanks for that great info Bedders!  Yes I well remember watching Shackelton's over Malta practising shutting down their engines and flying around with a few props 'feathering', although I cannot recall now them going down to just one. What a lovely sound they made though, and I can still clearly see and hear it in my mind  This is when I get very emotional!

There was a series of documentaries of British icons some years ago, London Taxi, Routemaster, Shackleton etc. & like a sad person, I taped the Shackleton documentary, & on the various bits of old film, it showed one doing a low pass down the runway, at, I assume, an airshow, with only one engine powered up!
They also mentioned the incredible endurance, which was I think, about 20 hours. They smelled of leather & hydraulic fluid according to one crew member (a bit like my Omega)

According to my dad the smell was more of stale urine !!  All the crew of 7 (8 on some 101 sqn missions) had the use of a bucket -- which became somewhat unstable during attacks -- with inevitable consequences !!!!!

[Martin_1962]

Should live where I do

Hawk's spending all day in the air, F18's visit often, and the od GR1's

but nothing is better than having a pair of long bow's and chinook flying level with the office windows...

It's great living and working on the flight path to RAF Valley

Oh and free air shows too !

Red arrows live there

Imagine one of these flying by.    WoW.


Planes are just getting bigger , more powerfull and more devastating.

But where is the emotional worth of these 'wings' without props?

Don't get me wrong Skruntie, they are very impressive aircraft of today, but to me it is like comparing a diesel 'box on wheels' railway engine to a beautiful, exciting and sexy Sir William Stanier Duchess Pacific Class, LMS painted, steam loco; no contest!  So with  flying wing, stealth, no moving parts, muffled roaring fighter planes v. a sleek aesthetically appealing, beautifully sounding, V12 driven Spitfire; no contest!

Prefer steam products from Swindon - eg Castles or my favourites 9Fs

My favourite locos though are Deltics and Class 50s

[FRE07962128]

one for you lizzy
turn sound up
   when i saw this close up i shed a tear or two  couldnt explain to my son why i felt the way i did
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj25AAuQzUc
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fNJ8rIEPLOo&feature=related

Thanks Andy!  Absolutely brill! What emotion producing sights and sounds.  

[FRE07962128]

Ah, the noise of 4 olympus 201's.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1VVlvoMUas

That is so good Mark, it takes me right back in time to seeing Vulcan's during their operational service years.  What a sight and sound.  I was actually at that Fairford display, and that demonstration was even better live than in the video.

[FRE07962128]

Should live where I do

Hawk's spending all day in the air, F18's visit often, and the od GR1's

but nothing is better than having a pair of long bow's and chinook flying level with the office windows...

It's great living and working on the flight path to RAF Valley

Oh and free air shows too !

Red arrows live there

Imagine one of these flying by.    WoW.


Planes are just getting bigger , more powerfull and more devastating.

But where is the emotional worth of these 'wings' without props?

Don't get me wrong Skruntie, they are very impressive aircraft of today, but to me it is like comparing a diesel 'box on wheels' railway engine to a beautiful, exciting and sexy Sir William Stanier Duchess Pacific Class, LMS painted, steam loco; no contest!  So with  flying wing, stealth, no moving parts, muffled roaring fighter planes v. a sleek aesthetically appealing, beautifully sounding, V12 driven Spitfire; no contest!

Prefer steam products from Swindon - eg Castles or my favourites 9Fs

My favourite locos though are Deltics and Class 50s

Indeed all wonderful engines, and I must admit, for a deisel, the Deltics had a fantastic roar!

I have just dug out a picture that I snapped at Eastleigh in November 1981 when Deltic 55015 'Tulyar' visited Easteigh (the first by a Deltic) on a farewell enthusiasts tour, which seems far more special now to me as a steam lady than it did then!  

[Martin_1962]

Should live where I do

Hawk's spending all day in the air, F18's visit often, and the od GR1's

but nothing is better than having a pair of long bow's and chinook flying level with the office windows...

It's great living and working on the flight path to RAF Valley

Oh and free air shows too !

Red arrows live there

Imagine one of these flying by.    WoW.


Planes are just getting bigger , more powerfull and more devastating.

But where is the emotional worth of these 'wings' without props?

Don't get me wrong Skruntie, they are very impressive aircraft of today, but to me it is like comparing a diesel 'box on wheels' railway engine to a beautiful, exciting and sexy Sir William Stanier Duchess Pacific Class, LMS painted, steam loco; no contest!  So with  flying wing, stealth, no moving parts, muffled roaring fighter planes v. a sleek aesthetically appealing, beautifully sounding, V12 driven Spitfire; no contest!

Prefer steam products from Swindon - eg Castles or my favourites 9Fs

My favourite locos though are Deltics and Class 50s

Indeed all wonderful engines, and I must admit, for a deisel, the Deltics had a fantastic roar!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdVtyEQKDrI

Only had 1 BR ride - Newcastle to Kings Cross, 50s were the local top end machines - had some brilliant runs behind them.


These are not bad, prefer the V16 (50) over the V12

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-mX_XwDAV4

Stuff LMS try the Great Western

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0vFQD5dSCQ

[Marks DTM Calib]

Ah, the noise of 4 olympus 201's.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1VVlvoMUas

That is so good Mark, it takes me right back in time to seeing Vulcan's during their operational service years.  What a sight and sound.  I was actually at that Fairford display, and that demonstration was even better live than in the video.

Lol, that was taken at Bruntingthorpe earlier this month as she came into land after her final test flight.......next stop, the display circuit!

[FRE07962128]

Should live where I do

Hawk's spending all day in the air, F18's visit often, and the od GR1's

but nothing is better than having a pair of long bow's and chinook flying level with the office windows...

It's great living and working on the flight path to RAF Valley

Oh and free air shows too !

Red arrows live there

Imagine one of these flying by.    WoW.


Planes are just getting bigger , more powerfull and more devastating.

But where is the emotional worth of these 'wings' without props?

Don't get me wrong Skruntie, they are very impressive aircraft of today, but to me it is like comparing a diesel 'box on wheels' railway engine to a beautiful, exciting and sexy Sir William Stanier Duchess Pacific Class, LMS painted, steam loco; no contest!  So with  flying wing, stealth, no moving parts, muffled roaring fighter planes v. a sleek aesthetically appealing, beautifully sounding, V12 driven Spitfire; no contest!

Prefer steam products from Swindon - eg Castles or my favourites 9Fs

My favourite locos though are Deltics and Class 50s

Indeed all wonderful engines, and I must admit, for a deisel, the Deltics had a fantastic roar!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdVtyEQKDrI

Only had 1 BR ride - Newcastle to Kings Cross, 50s were the local top end machines - had some brilliant runs behind them.


These are not bad, prefer the V16 (50) over the V12

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-mX_XwDAV4

Stuff LMS try the Great Western

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0vFQD5dSCQ

Yes GWR engines are superb machines, it is just a pity they never developed under Churchward more than one pacific, the first in the UK, class locomotive, No. 111 'The Great Bear' of 1908. Still the Collett's Kings were extremely powerful, and his Castles's magnificant but just not as powerful as the King's.  As I am sure you are aware Castle 5080 'Defiant' is one of the many Barry Scrapyard survivors, and thank God it was!

[FRE07962128]

Some time ago, I worked at Bae Systems, Brough, where the Buccaneer was & currently the Hawk is made. They still have a "Bucc" as a gate guardian, but it's not in a very good state now. It was very interesting to listen to the old hands recounting the dare devil flying of the test pilots.
As the Buccaneer was designed for Carrier work, it had fold up wing tips, but on at least one occassion, the pins which held them in the flying position, sheared and the poor test pilot didn't stand a chance.
They are a big aircraft & built for flying at zero altitude over the sea, with all the buffeting associated, hence the strength of the things.

As a matter of interest I have just 'dug out' from my collection an official RN photograph taken on board the fleet carrier HMS Oak Royal on 21st November 1960, when my father was serving on another carrier, HMS Albion (he did a swap of photo's with a friend!)  that shows Buccaneer XK489 standing on the flight deck.  

[Martin_1962]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1v8HmJ5CII

[Jay w]

We have a twin seater Spitfire that flies out of Plymouth airport, its a woman who owns it and she does airshows, i believe it was used as a trainnig aircraft during the last days of the war.

during the week, on an summers evening you can see her in the sky it is a phenomional sight, i get the deckchair out and go and sit on the garage roof as she is giving it the beanz in the sky, i never bore of the sight or the sound of that plane, the neighbours think i have lost the plot, what do they know, they have no soul.