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[chrisgixer]

Professionally speaking.

Probably not applicable to the self employed, but has your work load increased since the recession? I'm betting yes.

We're not happy in our jobs currently, either of us. Especially H. Hours are long, there's no let up in work load. Taken for granted. Take take take. Screwed to the floor. Are all common phrases in outer house. Neither of us are particularly well paid, or have had/will get a pay rise any time soon.

We both want to move, and their are jobs available but none offer a contract that better than we are on. They all want to employ for less money/longer hours/less perks etc.

So it looks like a case of the grass is greener.

It's an a employers market generally speaking. Do you find the same....? Or is it just us?

[tigers_gonads]

Professionally speaking.

Probably not applicable to the self employed, but has your work load increased since the recession? I'm betting yes.

We're not happy in our jobs currently, either of us. Especially H. Hours are long, there's no let up in work load. Taken for granted. Take take take. Screwed to the floor. Are all common phrases in outer house. Neither of us are particularly well paid, or have had/will get a pay rise any time soon.

We both want to move, and their are jobs available but none offer a contract that better than we are on. They all want to employ for less money/longer hours/less perks etc.So it looks like a case of the grass is greener.

It's an a employers market generally speaking. Do you find the same....? Or is it just us?

Thats the norm nowdays sadly 

[chrisgixer]

Although I should make the point that we are well off, in the grand scheme of things. We don't want for much. But the work life balance does need a tweak. Definitely.

[aaronjb]

I can't argue that I'm underpaid, but definitely feel consistently overworked, under appreciated and it feels like management moves the damn goalposts every other week so I never know quite what my job really is.

The latest initiative being to make this a more directly customer-facing role, and so therefore I am now flying to Poland on Sunday, returning on Friday before going on holiday to Cornwall immediately after that; now I don't get chance to prepare for the holiday, and get to spend next week staring at the inside of a hotel room or the inside of offices in what is apparently a bit of a hole (so Amy's Polish colleague tells me!)

And if I'd wanted a customer facing role I'd have taken one - when I started in this role it was the role you moved into if you wanted to get further away from the customers, not closer to them!


I keep daydreaming about a workshop somewhere in which I repair and restore cars for a living, but I don't think it'll ever happen.. unless I win the Euromillions tomorrow, of course.

[Rog]

I keep daydreaming about a workshop somewhere in which I repair and restore cars for a living, but I don't think it'll ever happen.. unless I win the Euromillions tomorrow, of course.

Well, that's not going to happen   . . . . . . . . . . 'Cos it's my turn     

[tigers_gonads]

I keep daydreaming about a workshop somewhere in which I repair and restore cars for a living, but I don't think it'll ever happen.. unless I win the Euromillions tomorrow, of course.

Well, that's not going to happen   . . . . . . . . . . 'Cos it's my turn     

Oh its you i've got to share it with is it 

[aaronjb]

C'mon Rog, you've already done the retirement to the country thing.. you don't need £111m - I'll lend you a few grand to chop all those trees down if you let me win, though


Work and life in general has got annoying enough recently for me - not helped by my arse of a neighbour constantly blocking my drive with his damn tipper truck - that I started looking at properties in Lincolnshire where my folks live for a similar value to my place.. like these two:

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-43547854.html
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-32222532.html

And a nice little workshop like:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-property-to-let/property-48340889.html

[powerslinky]

Professionally speaking.

Probably not applicable to the self employed, but has your work load increased since the recession? I'm betting yes.

We're not happy in our jobs currently, either of us. Especially H. Hours are long, there's no let up in work load. Taken for granted. Take take take. Screwed to the floor. Are all common phrases in outer house. Neither of us are particularly well paid, or have had/will get a pay rise any time soon.

We both want to move, and their are jobs available but none offer a contract that better than we are on. They all want to employ for less money/longer hours/less perks etc.

So it looks like a case of the grass is greener.

It's an a employers market generally speaking. Do you find the same....? Or is it just us?

It's not just you mr.G . . . Swmbo is employed (NHS)   & work load is constantly increasing to undoable levels

For the last 2 years  she  now comes in from each  shift (Community RGN  ) & has to spend 2 hours on the computer

catching up  logging all the stuff she has not had time to do during her shift . Thats 8 hours a week unpaid     x50 = 400

hours per year  x 2 years  = 800 hours unpaid  . . . so far 

And what do her management say ?   " Make time during your day"    effin' joke  . . . she cannot even have a break for lunch/

As for me  . . . I'm self employed  . .  usually bathroom & kitchen fitting on contract  . . . but prices for doing the work have

constantly fallen . . .  again to almost undoable levels . . . & know nothing "ijets"  doing the surveys make things so difficult .

. .  .thinking of getting out of it to be honest 

Might call the jobcentre . . . see if theres any vacancies for Giggolo's

EDIT:    good point made earlier about management moving the goalposts  . . . happens constantly here

[Stuart30]

Cant say ive been this happy work wise for a long time...yes im self employed Telescopic forklift driver.

Wife oddly likes her job (shelf stacker basicly) despite being capable of much more,as she says the pay is pretty good as she takes home £700 on a flat month for 2.5 nights a week and goes up to £1000 if she does a bit of overtime.

I take home (CIS so deduct 20% at source) £600 ish a week and neither of us have stress at work and she has just been told there getting a 3% pay rise on top of the already decent rate/bonus/10% discount they get already.

Whilst some will and believe me do stick there noses in the air at the "unskilled" work we do,who"s better off...us with no stress or them with stress.

[The Sheriff]

I'm retired. My wife has really streesful job and, I reckon, puts in about 75-80 hours a week. My head would explode if I had to do her job but she thrives on it, absolutely loves it. Takes all sorts.


And Stuart, people who look down their nose at you are no more than idiots. The days of job snobbery should be well and truly gone. As I mentioned earlier, I am soon moving out of a social housing property, and there are lots of folk here who 'stack shelves' and are dinner ladies etc. It must stick in their craw to see all the others who 'get by' on benefits, but it doesn't stop them getting up every morning and doing a good job.

[Andy B]

Have consolation in the fact that the salary or the directors is now 120 times as much as the rest of us.

While we have an average wage of £27k they are on £2.43 million!!!! How do they manage to make ends meet 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29587707

[TheBoy]

I earn enough to live comfortably, but the workload, particularly in the last 6-9 months has been unbearable, to the point I have been filling in resignation email but never actually sent it...   ...and usually by Monday I've calmed.

Our trouble is currently appalling management. Truly appalling. I have never been so busy achieving SFA in my life, and this leads to job satisfaction issues, and I guess in some what may be referred to as stress.

However, since a little birdie told me that one of the middle managers was trying to "overload people until they snapped", my usual stubbornness set it . Not everyone has my biligerance...  ...sadly for the poor chap who threw himself under a train a few weeks ago. I think only a handful of us aren't on mind altering medication now.

Don't get me wrong, I love to be busy. I thrive on pressure and busy. I just like to have that warm feeling driving home that I've achieved something, and the last few months I can honestly say I've achieved little, and that's the soul destroying bit.


Problem is, I don't want to commute more than 1hr, and just do a M-F job...

[Crazycarzowner]

I'm saying nothin 

[Andy B]

I'm saying nothin 

Paid too much or not enough?     

[Gaffers]

I was already flat out recently with projects all over the world on the go, and friday I was given 3 more 

I may just have to leave this client and find another, even if the money is good