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powerslinky

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Re: Naughty seller lied about my Car.
« Reply #30 on: 18 October 2014, 16:30:03 »

Even at £750, what looks to be a clean and tidy car with a years ticket and history is still a good deal...

My ex police, ex taxi, 270k mile thrice written off 3.2 estate was valued at £950 last time it was written off, and were it not for the recently discovered crack in the screen, it would be on the road, (currently sorned with no MoT, but apart from the screen, totally roadworthy)...

If you do a dvla check on my car, it is still showing a VIC Required marker, mostly because I cba to get it done :-X do a handfull of stonechips really make it dangerous :-\ Didn't think so ::)

The fact that the seller (or his grandson) have owned the vehicle for a long period of time and have bothered to get the VIC done actually says more than you give them credit for. And were you to ring me, effing and blinding about summat that you could easily have found out independently and accusing me of things, then I would probably react in kind... as would you if the shoe was on tother foot.

Besides, I'm not sure they have actually done anything wrong by selling the car 'out of trade' if it was their personal transport (ie registered to and maintained by themselves) :-\

As for not buying a car from anyone here, well more fool you... as that kind of statement really misses the point of the forum.

+1 on that point   . .  ::) ::) ::)
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Stuart30

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« Reply #31 on: 18 October 2014, 18:28:37 »

Even at £750, what looks to be a clean and tidy car with a years ticket and history is still a good deal...

My ex police, ex taxi, 270k mile thrice written off 3.2 estate was valued at £950 last time it was written off, and were it not for the recently discovered crack in the screen, it would be on the road, (currently sorned with no MoT, but apart from the screen, totally roadworthy)...

If you do a dvla check on my car, it is still showing a VIC Required marker, mostly because I cba to get it done :-X do a handfull of stonechips really make it dangerous :-\ Didn't think so ::)

The fact that the seller (or his grandson) have owned the vehicle for a long period of time and have bothered to get the VIC done actually says more than you give them credit for. And were you to ring me, effing and blinding about summat that you could easily have found out independently and accusing me of things, then I would probably react in kind... as would you if the shoe was on tother foot.

Besides, I'm not sure they have actually done anything wrong by selling the car 'out of trade' if it was their personal transport (ie registered to and maintained by themselves) :-\

As for not buying a car from anyone here, well more fool you... as that kind of statement really misses the point of the forum.

Actually you've assumed quite a bit mate...all of it wrong.

I most certainly didn't phone up effing and blinding,why would I....?

Secondly I didn't say they owned the car for a long time...I said it was MOT"d serviced at the garage and was obviously known to them,most likely a customers car.

Seller stated they owned it for 2 years..log book showed the owner having it 2 months roughly,the VIC test was said to have been done 2 years back...it was done 1 month after the seller bought the car.

If you think its ok for a dealer to pass off a car as private when they are traders...then I wont be asking your advice when buying the next motor. ;D

And as for the line about not buying from here (ive bought several over the years) I was referring to the person who stated "Why should they declare a write off"...well break me sideways if that's an honest friendly seller id rather take my chances on Ebay. :y


Nearly forgot...my mate found numerous faults which none had been advertised,so no at £750 to someone who would have to use a garage for repairs it would have been hideously expensive to fix.
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05omegav6

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Re: Naughty seller lied about my Car.
« Reply #32 on: 18 October 2014, 18:31:28 »

Assumptions were based on what and how you typed...

Alot of crying and belly aching for a £475 car that you CBA to check out properly... :-X
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Stuart30

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« Reply #33 on: 18 October 2014, 18:36:58 »

Assumptions were based on what and how you typed...

Alot of crying and belly aching for a £475 car that you CBA to check out properly... :-X

Ahhh belly aching and crying...wtf...ive stated the seller was and is a lier and you think its my fault.. ;D

Ive stated numerous times...im chuffed to bits with my car,but that's because I have the support to have it put right at reasonable costs.

Id hate to think some poor bugger buying it not knowing things like the cam covers leaking will be an expensive fix...add it possible coil packs and hourly rate at garage and its a money pit...that's before the HID"s needing attention or the other niggly faults.

But as said ive factored them into the price I offerd,so the CBA comment is 'dangle berries'. :y

Id also suggest going back and slowly reading what ive written...belly aching or simply stating the seller was a lier...big difference.
« Last Edit: 18 October 2014, 18:39:34 by Stuart30 »
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05omegav6

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« Reply #34 on: 18 October 2014, 20:07:14 »

Alot of what you have subsequently said contadicts what you first said... for example...

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Seller stated they owned it for 2 years..log book showed the owner having it 2 months roughly,the VIC test was said to have beendone 2 years back...it was done 1 month after the seller bought the car.
Suggests you knew it was a Cat C...

Was or was the car not registered to an actual person (who happens to own a garage) rather than the previous keeper or even the garage itself? Did it have a complete V5? what did that say regarding the VIC?

Did you or did you not carry out independent checks to verify the complete history of the car?

Blatantly obvious faults such as leaking camcover gaskets are not 'hidden' unless you are physically prevented from looking under the bonnet. Besides, buying a second hand Omega is likely to cost you £700-£1k in rectification work in the first year alone, especially if you are spending less than £2k on it...
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powerslinky

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« Reply #35 on: 19 October 2014, 06:39:56 »

Don't really see where the OP is going with this thread :-\

He has  inspected the car , bartered the price down by over 30%, got a fair car for the money it seems.

Highly unlikely that you will buy an omega for that money without it having issues of some kind.

His point seems to be that he wants all of us on here to agree with him that the seller or relation to the seller in this case is

a liar :o   

That person , being a car dealer, that could well be the case , but until I have actually met or had dealings with this person, 

I for one will not be agreeing with that >:( >:(

It seems to me OP that you are beating yourself up for making some very elementary mistakes when  buying a used car ::)

For one,  if you had bothered to look at the V5 , it would have told you that the car had been VIC checked at VOSA & that

it was subject to previous insurance related damage  ;)





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Re: Naughty seller lied about my Car.
« Reply #36 on: 19 October 2014, 08:13:22 »

Ditto  :y
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Re: Naughty seller lied about my Car.
« Reply #37 on: 19 October 2014, 08:50:09 »

Of course the sellers not going to tell you its been in an accident why would he. For him hes found a sucker buyer who hasnt bothered to do his home work :y

what colour is the car stuart?
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05omegav6

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« Reply #38 on: 19 October 2014, 09:37:57 »

Dark blue judging by the pics :-\
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Stuart30

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« Reply #39 on: 19 October 2014, 12:41:13 »

Alot of what you have subsequently said contadicts what you first said... for example...

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Seller stated they owned it for 2 years..log book showed the owner having it 2 months roughly,the VIC test was said to have beendone 2 years back...it was done 1 month after the seller bought the car.
Suggests you knew it was a Cat C...

Was or was the car not registered to an actual person (who happens to own a garage) rather than the previous keeper or even the garage itself? Did it have a complete V5? what did that say regarding the VIC?

Did you or did you not carry out independent checks to verify the complete history of the car?

Blatantly obvious faults such as leaking camcover gaskets are not 'hidden' unless you are physically prevented from looking under the bonnet. Besides, buying a second hand Omega is likely to cost you £700-£1k in rectification work in the first year alone, especially if you are spending less than £2k on it...

Is it a cat C...ive no idea.

No I had no idea it was a write off...the log book had no record of it,only thing it stated was Number plate couldn't be transferd/changed.

Yeah car was registerd to the owner of the Garage,this was denied at the time saying they had no connection with the garage,so again I ask why bloody lie...and as ive stated the seller stated the owner had owned it 2 years,the log book stated 2 months to which we were told that's a misprint.

New log book (I received) shows the message as stated previously about accident...ive then gone on line after and found the VIC test was done 1 month after the owner bought the car,and that was July this year.

As for the cam covers being obvious...yes to an experienced Omega owner or someone who knows what they are looking for,for your average bloke in the street no its not obvious,esp when asked "Any leaks from cam covers as there common fault" and to be told no mate just a drop of oil where we topped up.

End of the day ive highlighted a dodgy seller and you just want to pass the blame...what a self righteous idiot you are.


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Stuart30

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Re: Naughty seller lied about my Car.
« Reply #40 on: 19 October 2014, 12:45:13 »

Don't really see where the OP is going with this thread :-\

He has  inspected the car , bartered the price down by over 30%, got a fair car for the money it seems.

Highly unlikely that you will buy an omega for that money without it having issues of some kind.

His point seems to be that he wants all of us on here to agree with him that the seller or relation to the seller in this case is

a liar :o   

That person , being a car dealer, that could well be the case , but until I have actually met or had dealings with this person, 

I for one will not be agreeing with that >:( >:(

It seems to me OP that you are beating yourself up for making some very elementary mistakes when  buying a used car ::)

For one,  if you had bothered to look at the V5 , it would have told you that the car had been VIC checked at VOSA & that

it was subject to previous insurance related damage
  ;)

Beating myself up for buying a cheap car that makes me smile from ear to ear when driving...don't think so AL,merely stating that the seller was a liar.

But seems that people on here don't think the fact its a write off needs to be mentioned when selling a car...as said wont buy off anyone here.!

As stated Al NO MENTION ON V5 ABOUT ACCIDENT...we looked and mate is in the trade so knows what a V5 looks like.

As stated previuously to the other moron why not SLOWLY read the original post...digest it and you might half a idea of what im talking about. ::)

My V5 arrived today and it states the car has "Substaintially repaired and /or Accident Damaged;Identity checked 01/08/2014.

Now this is the bit I find annoying/offensive...both myself and mechanic friend asked the history and what was wrong,chap lied through his teeth about smell of oil being where he topped up as its the cam(s) cover...and various other stuff that we agreed could be sorted.

The chap selling was selling on behalf of his grandad..when we questioned why the log book stated 2 months ownership as opposed the advertised 2 yrs we were suspicious,add on the house is next to a Local second hand car dealer and the car was surprise surprise MOT"d at the very same garage,we both chuckled and said the owner was selling through his grandson to avoid being held liable as a dealer/trader.

Anyway ive googled the owners name and surprise surprise he is the Garage owner...so phoned him and was told the car sat for 2 yrs and the fact its been a write off is and I quote "None of your F--ing business and whats it got to do with you...followed by more abuse and told to F--ck off and don't bother him again.

Charming chap huh.

So is there anyway (Free) to check what Cat write off it was/is and what the VIC test tested...assuming it could have been a dented bumper or complete front end smash,so just for peace of mind and before throwing it around any more corners,id like to find the accident history.

But hey opps it...I wont bother with you bunch of self righteous self-abusers...keep the love yeah. ::)
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Re: Naughty seller lied about my Car.
« Reply #41 on: 19 October 2014, 12:58:55 »

oo-err another dummy spitter when he don't get answer he liked!!! :y
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« Reply #42 on: 19 October 2014, 13:04:44 »



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« Reply #43 on: 19 October 2014, 13:09:17 »

I knew there was a reason I didn't come on here so much now :'(
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« Reply #44 on: 19 October 2014, 13:13:40 »

What you gone and done that for  :-\ :-\
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