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[Spireite]

Ive never read a post so 'round the houses' so to speak.

Quite a few people have made it clear, including myself, what can be expected from a chip or other mods to give 3.0 performance or there abouts.

I can understand the lad asking questions, but.........

Anyway, best of luck with your endeavours mate, I hope you get the desired result, whether it turbo charging, grinding and welding, chipping it etc.  You've definately got a nice platform to start with, maybe sell it and buy something that performs as it should, maybe a 3.2 elite with toys or an MV6.  It'll be cheaper in the long run, which I'm sure others will agree.

keep up the entertaining posts though, they make me chuckle/smile!

[Spireite]

Old fashioned, lol.

I prefer the minifacelift elite spec, with the sumptuous pleated leather doorcards etc etc.

Each to their own mind, but theres a somewhat plasticy feel to the facelift.

Long live the prefacelift! Rare sight on the roads now.

Im only joking!

[Webby the Bear]

Sorry guys, i should really make myself clearer 

The reason i asked about what i'd need is cos i've already brought just a 3.0l block. brought it to just play with and strip down and over time rebuild for learning purposes.....now the notion of chucking it in is becoming ever more clearer so was just wondering what i had to get with it

Spiireite.... sorry mate, i am a question-smith. it just takes me a long while to process info especially when its being quick fired on this excellent forum. glad it entertains though lol

sorry to annoy anyone but put simply... im thick as shit

[Spireite]

Webby

I wasn't having a dig mate, its just you ask a question, I responded being the first to reply to you.  Even giving you names, numbers and feedback as I have exactly what your intending to achive on my own car.

You then go about broadening the scope of the subject, by talking about buying wristbands and installing standard generic ecu's and chips.  Surely you might at least speak to a professional like Rich or a local superchips representative. Theres only so much people know on this forum, myself included, hence why we leave certain jobs to people who know what there doing - garages or professional mappers etc.

Rant over, no need to put yourself down either, have a ring around as I always do, try motorsport developments - stuart the owner is an extremeley nice helpful chap, and prides himself in talking people through mods etc.  Talk to Rich on the number I gave you maybe.  Its entirely up to you?

As for amusing me, yeah I sometimes chuckle at what you write, but you do spend alot of your time and energy on here, again not knocking it, but its not the be all and end all of car ownership.

All the best mate!

[Webby the Bear]

Fair comments mate!!! 

Just to let you know i wasnt ignoring your comments about ringing the professionals. it's just that i got a very good offer made on a chip that i'd have to fit myself. hence the questions re fitment. again though... you would have known that had i been clearer!

Out of interest i did ring SC. The chap could only give me the price with no details about the questions i was asking re best fuel as the chap i e mailed was on holiday. so i may well call your chap to see his thoughts. thanks mate 

[Spireite]

You have pm webby

[Webby the Bear]

cheers mate , just replied 

[cem_devecioglu]

Could probably get the complete car with 3.0 attached for not much more money.

Here do...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201411038708770/sort/priceasc/usedcars/radius/1501/page/1/postcode/nn36rq/model/omega/make/vauxhall/quicksearch/true/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew?logcode=p

thats a good and a very economical example.. I could buy it any day for that price

[omega3000]

Could probably get the complete car with 3.0 attached for not much more money.

Here do...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201411038708770/sort/priceasc/usedcars/radius/1501/page/1/postcode/nn36rq/model/omega/make/vauxhall/quicksearch/true/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew?logcode=p

Ive already emailed about that one , awaiting reply 

[Broomies Mate]

So after 11/12 pages we have come to the answer that I put on page 1.

If you want a faster Omega, buy a faster Omega.

Waste your money on a chip if you like.  It will never have the torque of a 3.0 and certainly nothing compared to the 3.2.

 

[Webby the Bear]

Lol that may well be true about the answer being on page. 1.

However each and every reply has helped me to actually understand why that's probably the best option. It's also helped me understand more about the remapping which is what I was after in the first place.

So thanks to everyone fir their input.

[TheBoy]

It will never have the torque of a 3.0 and certainly nothing compared to the 3.2.

BM - did you buy your 3.2 off Martin Imber, or did you have a dog of a 3.0?  I only ask as I've yet to come across a 3.2 that overall has a stronger acceleration than a 3.0.  The throttle response is different, you only need to fart on the 3.2 pedal and it's giving it everything, as opposed to the cable throttle where the butterflies match the pedal.

[biggriffin]

lets see if this helps young bear.
 bottem end from a 3.2
 heads from a 2.5
cams from a 3.0/3.2
manifolds from a 2.6/3.2
fuel pressure reg from a 3.2
injectors from a 3.0 unless its underfueling then use 3.2 ones
3.0 downpipes, jetex full system
r28 manwell gearbox
matched inlets,and plenum
widened throttle body,
goverment/svo ecu,  99'octane fuel'optimax'
lsd,new subframe bushes,
all in a 3.0l facelift,with 17" wheels,poly front bushes.std plod spec springs,b4 or b8 bilstens all round,if you want to go stiffer,then start to seam the shell,and fit a full grp A cage.
and to stop it audi brake conversion.

hope this helps, some may disagree with my thoughts.!! , but what do I know.

[zirk]

lets see if this helps young bear.
 bottem end from a 3.2
 heads from a 2.5
cams from a 3.0/3.2
manifolds from a 2.6/3.2
fuel pressure reg from a 3.2
injectors from a 3.0 unless its underfueling then use 3.2 ones
3.0 downpipes, jetex full system
r28 manwell gearbox
matched inlets,and plenum
widened throttle body,
goverment/svo ecu,  99'octane fuel'optimax'
lsd,new subframe bushes,
all in a 3.0l facelift,with 17" wheels,poly front bushes.std plod spec springs,b4 or b8 bilstens all round,if you want to go stiffer,then start to seam the shell,and fit a full grp A cage.
and to stop it audi brake conversion.

hope this helps, some may disagree with my thoughts.!! , but what do I know.

You missed 2, Manual Box and a Short Shift stick.

[Temetsy]

lets see if this helps young bear.
 bottem end from a 3.2
 heads from a 2.5
cams from a 3.0/3.2
manifolds from a 2.6/3.2
fuel pressure reg from a 3.2
injectors from a 3.0 unless its underfueling then use 3.2 ones
3.0 downpipes, jetex full system
r28 manwell gearbox
matched inlets,and plenum
widened throttle body,
goverment/svo ecu,  99'octane fuel'optimax'
lsd,new subframe bushes,
all in a 3.0l facelift,with 17" wheels,poly front bushes.std plod spec springs,b4 or b8 bilstens all round,if you want to go stiffer,then start to seam the shell,and fit a full grp A cage.
and to stop it audi brake conversion.

hope this helps, some may disagree with my thoughts.!! , but what do I know.

You missed 2, Manual Box and a Short Shift stick.

Missed only one