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front wheel bearing / hub
« on: 29 November 2014, 10:11:34 »

Just been to get my tracking done as the front wheels are miles out  :(
The man jacked up the front end and the pigging nearside front wheel is wobbling around like a jelly  :'(

I've been quoted 53 quid plus the dreaded VAT for a new hub / abs carrier ring  :-\

Is that a good price ?

Is this something I can do by the side of the road with hand tools ?

Is it a easy job to do or do I torch the bloody thing ?

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Re: front wheel bearing / hub
« Reply #1 on: 29 November 2014, 10:58:59 »

No need to torch the car, easy job with ordinary tools, part available cheap on e-bay. Chris and Al will not approve because of disturbance of camber setting, but that's not the end of the world. Toe-in is easy to reset. Part is common on e-bay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OMEGA-O-S-5-STUD-HUB-BEARING-CARRIER-ABS-SENSOR-94-03-/110609254217?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19c0d34749
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Re: front wheel bearing / hub
« Reply #3 on: 29 November 2014, 11:33:48 »

Easy job, done it on both mine, and due to inferior products this one had them changed 3 times in as many months !! No need to mess with camber settings etc just follow the guide ..

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90544.0

I don't have a 320 Nm torque wrench .. but all I did was to assemble the whole lot to the max of my wrench 280 NM .. then put the wheel back on leaving off the bearing nut cover and the wheel centre, drove to local garage and for a couple of quid in the charity box they stuck their large torque wrench on it - straight through the hole in the wheel centre - and tightened it up. Drove home, wheel off, bearing nut cover on, wheel centre replaced, wheel on job jobbed. Half a day max per side
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Re: front wheel bearing / hub
« Reply #4 on: 29 November 2014, 11:46:04 »

Am I right in thinking that its a standard thread on the shaft ?
In other words, anticlockwise to undo ?
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Re: front wheel bearing / hub
« Reply #5 on: 29 November 2014, 12:04:04 »

 

Just pulled the wheel off and tried the nut just in case it had come loose when I changed the front discs a few weeks ago but its nice and tight.
In fact, i've just split a very old 32mm socket so i've ordered a nice new 32mm impact socket and new hub off eBay.
Should be here Tuesday so you can expect rain, snow, high winds and a plague of locust to invade Hull on Tuesday  ;D ;D ;D

Good job I love these cars ..............   

Thanks for all the info lads  :)
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Re: front wheel bearing / hub
« Reply #6 on: 29 November 2014, 12:08:47 »

No need to torch the car, easy job with ordinary tools, part available cheap on e-bay. Chris and Al will not approve because of disturbance of camber setting, but that's not the end of the world. Toe-in is easy to reset. Part is common on e-bay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OMEGA-O-S-5-STUD-HUB-BEARING-CARRIER-ABS-SENSOR-94-03-/110609254217?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19c0d34749

Terry, your right, I don't approve. Several reasons, chief among which, he just said in his post that the car has just been set up. So it will need setting up( AGAIN! ) if the stub axel is removed. (Arguably it would be better to fit the used bearing alone)

Secondly the op has stated he has basic hand tools. Clearly he is not going to get involved in diy geometric set up ( I'm the first to admire those that will have a go at this but it's by no means easy, and impossible to Guarantee its correct, without checking on  Set up rig anyway)

Thirdly, while the advice given might work for you, and fair play :y you must recognise that isn't going to be possible for everyone here.

Fourth, assuming long term ownership, a used bearing has an unknown history. Unkind miles, and could easily need doing again in short order.

For the op, the job itself is very easy, with the exception of the torque needed to tighten the nut. 320nm's. Some leverage is required to loosen it as well.

As for the part, after some long threads on the subject, after market parts, such as QH and conti(direct) simply do not last. Poor quality with more play than the original after 6months tops. Don't waste your money.

All German do the original factory part for £50 with the cap (not supplied with pattern/aftermarket) or, if that's too expensive fit used. Far better than pattern shite.

The only reason the part in the link is supplied with the stub axle is because the breaker can't be arsed to remove it from the bearing, due to the aforementioned 320nm torque.

Re fitting, easy if you have a 320nm torque wrench. If not Halfords 300nm wrench will dothe job. Or as Enwtood says, drive it round the local garage. Click click. Jobbed.

The only time I'd suggest Terry's method is if the wishbones need changing as well. Then it's much easier that way :y , but then you may not want a used bearing.
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Re: front wheel bearing / hub
« Reply #7 on: 29 November 2014, 12:09:23 »

Normal thread, not left handed.
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« Reply #9 on: 29 November 2014, 12:29:20 »

Must agree to disagree slightly, in that I would be prepared to give those ATP bearings a shot in preference to fitting the firstline crap that my local factor insists on selling for near Allgerman prices... Then it's simply a matter of budget... best you can afford etc :y

A six foot scaffold pole will laugh in the face of 320nm for undoing the hub nut, but otherwise, it's a doddle of a job :y
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Re: front wheel bearing / hub
« Reply #10 on: 29 November 2014, 12:32:55 »

Oh dear, good job I didn't say which tyres i've fitted too  ;D ;D ;D

Understand what you mean Chris but with our bank balance, needs must and all that  :(
I'm looking at changing all 4 shocks next year so if they is any play in there, i'll budget for a couple of decent hubs too  :y

Right, off to find some old blocks of wood so I can jack the car up, apply strong arm complete with new socket (if it arrives on time) and lower the car / using the weight to crack off the nut.
I've not got a torque wrench which goes that high so it will be a case of strong arm until i'm about to shit myself then another 1/4 of a turn  :D :D
But I will get it torqued up at a garage soon after  :y


Al, those ATP bearings are what i've ordered  :y
Fingers crossed and all that  ;D
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« Reply #11 on: 29 November 2014, 12:38:33 »

 :y rummaging around their site, ATP sell a broad variety of components... only ever bought front suspension parts from them though, so interested to see how you get on :y
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Re: front wheel bearing / hub
« Reply #12 on: 29 November 2014, 12:50:22 »

Oh dear, good job I didn't say which tyres i've fitted too  ;D ;D ;D

Understand what you mean Chris but with our bank balance, needs must and all that  :(
I'm looking at changing all 4 shocks next year so if they is any play in there, i'll budget for a couple of decent hubs too  :y

Right, off to find some old blocks of wood so I can jack the car up, apply strong arm complete with new socket (if it arrives on time) and lower the car / using the weight to crack off the nut.
I've not got a torque wrench which goes that high so it will be a case of strong arm until i'm about to shit myself then another 1/4 of a turn  :D :D
But I will get it torqued up at a garage soon after  :y


Al, those ATP bearings are what i've ordered  :y
Fingers crossed and all that  ;D

I found that with everything prepped, wheel back on, lower car to ground, then a 3ft breaker bar with me standing on the end, hands on the roof and a little bit of a "knees flex - oomph" type weight application it came undone quite easily .....  but I was nearly 14 stone at the time !!
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Re: front wheel bearing / hub
« Reply #13 on: 29 November 2014, 12:52:09 »

Lightweight ;D
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« Reply #14 on: 29 November 2014, 13:59:37 »

Maybe so TG, but assuming you want to keep the car long term, reliability is key, as you've found. So Oe is cheaper long term.

But I'm sure you've heard all the buy cheap, buy twice story's.

Good luck what ever you decide. Would you keep us informed on the Atp bearings if you go that way? They are unknown but we do need people to try new stuff and let us know if they work long term.

... And remember the bearing cap. It MUST seal properly or the bearing will fail early no matter what's fitted. (I use a bit of black cam cover goo on mine just to be sure)
« Last Edit: 29 November 2014, 14:01:41 by chrisgixer »
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