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Re: Oof page delay
« Reply #45 on: 17 December 2014, 20:45:58 »

Is there a router your end, before the web site?

I'm getting bad delay on pages. But page load times are fine.


Of course if it's my end that's fine. But if your end, that's baaaad. Very baaaad. ;)
Obviously there is a router this end. And a switch between the router and the server.  But not sure what you are getting at?
Neither is he.

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Re: Oof page delay
« Reply #46 on: 17 December 2014, 21:31:14 »

Nope. No idea me.

But I did wonder if the router your end might delay the packets(?) to the oof server. But still give a quick load time, once the page is loaded.


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Re: Oof page delay
« Reply #47 on: 17 December 2014, 21:41:29 »

But I did wonder if the router your end might delay the packets(?) to the oof server. But still give a quick load time, once the page is loaded.
This isn't your usual ISP supplied freebie router, which are all universally poor.

Router wouldn't delay packets* for a specific server (as QoS isn't configured).  Additionally it would affect me as well, as the same router has to route packets from my internal network through to the network that the OOF webserver sits on.  I simply am not seeing *any* page load issues, nor is the monitoring that checks OOF every couple of minutes, 24/7.  Yesterday aside, obviously.


* Technically all network routers and switches do put in tiny delays, as they are all store and forward devices.
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Re: Oof page delay
« Reply #48 on: 17 December 2014, 21:43:55 »

Tough job pushing packets...  ;)
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Re: Oof page delay
« Reply #49 on: 17 December 2014, 21:47:42 »

Tough job pushing packets...  ;)
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Re: Oof page delay
« Reply #50 on: 17 December 2014, 22:02:07 »

Tough job pushing packets...  ;)
Pays the bills for you :y
One config fits all........with minor tweaking  ;D

Just needs BTOR to turn up shortly after Newsites turn up shortly after the building contractor puts the ducts in, which is shortly before the comms room is built with power and aircon and, and, and, and jobs a goodun. (Let me know if you can spot any possibility of failure in the statement).
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« Reply #51 on: 17 December 2014, 23:23:24 »

If you set your QoS’s declared bandwidth lower than your allotted ISP bandwidth, you’re creating an artificial bottleneck where you can control it: at your router. Now, your own QoS settings kick in and re-arrange your traffic. The cost of bandwidth is pretty minimal, but by tweaking things slowly you can marginalize it further.

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Re: Oof page delay
« Reply #52 on: 17 December 2014, 23:30:09 »

But I did wonder if the router your end might delay the packets(?) to the oof server. But still give a quick load time, once the page is loaded.
This isn't your usual ISP supplied freebie router, which are all universally poor.

Router wouldn't delay packets* for a specific server (as QoS isn't configured).  Additionally it would affect me as well, as the same router has to route packets from my internal network through to the network that the OOF webserver sits on.  I simply am not seeing *any* page load issues, nor is the monitoring that checks OOF every couple of minutes, 24/7.  Yesterday aside, obviously.


* Technically all network routers and switches do put in tiny delays, as they are all store and forward devices.
TB what is a good router for home use then. is it the belkin & netgear stuff  :-\
im on a NETGEAR DGN3500
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Re: Oof page delay
« Reply #53 on: 18 December 2014, 09:31:09 »

TB what is a good router for home use then. is it the belkin & netgear stuff  :-\
im on a NETGEAR DGN3500

I think TB will probably tell you there are no good home use routers ;) although I've had reasonable success with TP-Link.
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Re: Oof page delay
« Reply #54 on: 18 December 2014, 18:09:39 »

Tough job pushing packets...  ;)
Pays the bills for you :y
One config fits all........with minor tweaking  ;D

Just needs BTOR to turn up shortly after Newsites turn up shortly after the building contractor puts the ducts in, which is shortly before the comms room is built with power and aircon and, and, and, and jobs a goodun. (Let me know if you can spot any possibility of failure in the statement).
Nope, no problems there, what could possibly be wrong with that....
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Re: Oof page delay
« Reply #55 on: 18 December 2014, 18:10:43 »

TB what is a good router for home use then. is it the belkin & netgear stuff  :-\
im on a NETGEAR DGN3500

I think TB will probably tell you there are no good home use routers ;) although I've had reasonable success with TP-Link.
Pretty much my view (ignoring the TP-Link, though they do tend to have strong Wifi....   ....and more holes than airtech pants)
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Re: Oof page delay
« Reply #56 on: 18 December 2014, 18:39:32 »

If you set your QoS’s declared bandwidth lower than your allotted ISP bandwidth, you’re creating an artificial bottleneck where you can control it: at your router. Now, your own QoS settings kick in and re-arrange your traffic. The cost of bandwidth is pretty minimal, but by tweaking things slowly you can marginalize it further.

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I'm guessing you really don't understand QoS ;).  Its to allow important, time critical packets through, not bottleneck others (and it wouldn't unless the bandwidth was at capacity).

OOF up to a couple of years ago made extensive use of QoS as the line capacity was only 270kbps, so the line was pretty much always at 100% capacity from about 8am to 11pm. QoS allowed the important service to run fast, and the less important ones to run with a much higher latency.
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