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Decisions decisions - extend car warranty or not
« on: 23 December 2014, 13:01:44 »

Phaeton is 5 years old today. Nothing has gone wrong other than service items and that means just the tyres. Two bulbs went when under warranty a couple of years ago but that happened the day before the service!!

I bought a warranty for years 4 and 5 from Warranty Wise for £420 a year which I have not had to call on.

Now of course at 5 years old the price is £70 a month for 1 year or £61 a month for 3 years.

If anything does go wrong it will be mega expensive eg - brake discs all round at a dealer will be £1100 which are not covered as a service item of course  - should I go indie???

Arguably to run a car like this for £61 a month plus your service items and road tax and fuel  is not bad value but it still narks. For that money I have a max single repair of £5000 no excess and no limit on number of claims, £200 per hour labour rate, and airbags, multimedia etc covered. Unlimited mileage as well.

Don't like to pay out for this but sod's law tells me that I am now entering the vulnerable years and if I don't do it I will get a problem.

On Phaeton website quite a mixed bag of views as you would expect but at £61 a month some think it is a no brainer to go for a warranty.

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« Reply #1 on: 23 December 2014, 13:06:29 »

Just renewed the warranty on the Eclass, £39 per month, claim limit to the car purchase price with no mileage limit either 8)

Including the current service plan at £55 per month, which covers any due service item for three services within two years, £94 buys alot of piece of mind...
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« Reply #2 on: 23 December 2014, 13:23:59 »

I guess by shopping around on the warranty you might get a better deal elsewhere and yes why not use an indy garage or indy VW specialist, which might bring your premium down.  ;)
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« Reply #3 on: 23 December 2014, 13:33:25 »

Arguably brake discs won't be covered anyway as they're a wearing part... your big worries are anything timing related (engine out job), injectors (stupidly expensive), transmission issues and any electrical gremlins :-\
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Re: Decisions decisions - extend car warranty or not
« Reply #4 on: 23 December 2014, 13:46:44 »

Phaeton is 5 years old today. Nothing has gone wrong other than service items and that means just the tyres. Two bulbs went when under warranty a couple of years ago but that happened the day before the service!!

I bought a warranty for years 4 and 5 from Warranty Wise for £420 a year which I have not had to call on.

Now of course at 5 years old the price is £70 a month for 1 year or £61 a month for 3 years.

If anything does go wrong it will be mega expensive eg - brake discs all round at a dealer will be £1100 which are not covered as a service item of course  - should I go indie???

Arguably to run a car like this for £61 a month plus your service items and road tax and fuel  is not bad value but it still narks. For that money I have a max single repair of £5000 no excess and no limit on number of claims, £200 per hour labour rate, and airbags, multimedia etc covered. Unlimited mileage as well.

Don't like to pay out for this but sod's law tells me that I am now entering the vulnerable years and if I don't do it I will get a problem.

On Phaeton website quite a mixed bag of views as you would expect but at £61 a month some think it is a no brainer to go for a warranty.




Agreed. I have a phone on effectively-unlimited contract for that very reason, peace of mind. I don't ever have to go into any settings, or check online, or wait for a statement or whatever to come through to see 'ah, I've just gone over... £110 on texts.... ooops' (yes, that happened once, new girlfriend  ::) )

However, just looking at the brake discs you mention... £1100 fitted. I have no knowledge of the Phaeton's inner workings, but to replace the discs on one can't be greatly different from any other modern car. Wheels off, undo caliper bolts, hang out of the way, undo allen screw, disc off, new one on, refit is the reverse of removal... (happy to be disproven on this, though)

Found on a forum someone getting genuine discs from main dealer all round for £320 inc shipping, and that price comes down to £50 a pair if you want to go non-OEM. I'm a little intrigued to hear where the dealer is spending the missing £780...  ???

I can fully appreciate the repair costs of a brand-new / nearly new car are astronomical, because in your case, unlike the Omega, you just won't find one every week in a scrappy. Parts are specialist, or main dealer; and that's why you've gone down the warranty route. Just to play devil's advocate... if you'd put the £820 you'd spent on the warranty in 2 years into the Bank, that'd be about £850 now, and there as a 'kitty' should you have needed any repair work, which you haven't. At £70/month in another year, that'd grow to practically double = £1711, or at the £61/month 3 yr route = £3000+. It's a gamble, of course, that's warranties for you, maybe you will, maybe you won't. If the Phaeton's the reliable Omega-replacer you hope it to be, then no. On the other hand - consider the car's overall value in 3 year's time. If then it's only worth about or less than £3k, well, you've got more in your bank than the car's resale value, so then you'd be a very happy boy.  :)

Taxi Al makes a fine point, too - don't know if a warranty would replace a part like brakes, that are designed to wear away, any more than they would if it ran out of fuel because you hadn't topped it up.

I'm not wanting to appear negative, I'm simply offering another perspective  :) It's a decision only you can make, I think.
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Re: Decisions decisions - extend car warranty or not
« Reply #5 on: 23 December 2014, 13:58:07 »

Brakes are wear and tear so not covered unless something cracked,broke or seized,I guess that a contribution toward repair cost would be applicable due to miles covered.
As Al pointed out the big money repairs are engine/gearbox/electronics and fuel system which could bring an eye watering bill,that said if £70 a month was stuck into an account and left there it would mount up nicely to cover any unfortunate episode :y
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Re: Decisions decisions - extend car warranty or not
« Reply #6 on: 23 December 2014, 14:42:32 »

...., £94 buys alot of piece of mind...

What does c£1200 buy?  ::)
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« Reply #7 on: 23 December 2014, 14:48:22 »

...., £94 buys alot of piece of mind...

What does c£1200 buy?  ::)

Four Omegas? ;D
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Re: Decisions decisions - extend car warranty or not
« Reply #8 on: 23 December 2014, 15:03:26 »

...., £94 buys alot of piece of mind...

What does c£1200 buy?  ::)

Four Omegas? ;D

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« Reply #9 on: 23 December 2014, 15:09:02 »

...., £94 buys alot of piece of mind...

What does c£1200 buy?  ::)
Wot they sed ;D

Unfortunately not suitable for work...
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Re: Decisions decisions - extend car warranty or not
« Reply #10 on: 23 December 2014, 15:11:50 »

...., £94 buys alot of piece of mind...

What does c£1200 buy?  ::)
Wot they sed ;D

Unfortunately not suitable for work...

I suppose being a car you need for work does put a different light on it  :-\
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« Reply #11 on: 23 December 2014, 15:31:03 »

Indeed, had I applied some sense when I bought the Insignia I would still be driving the Omega, but I didn't so I am not and consequently any potential purchase must be less than five years old...
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Re: Decisions decisions - extend car warranty or not
« Reply #12 on: 23 December 2014, 16:56:49 »

This thread reminds me a little of the rip-off that passes for pet insurance.....or extended warranties on white goods.

Most people are better off putting the money in the bank and using it for repairs if and when they happen.

I read somewhere that only about 6% of people who take out extended warranties actually claim on them. This is why they are pushed so hard whenever you buy a new fridge/television/washing machine.

Personally, I wouldn't.


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Re: Decisions decisions - extend car warranty or not
« Reply #13 on: 23 December 2014, 17:01:43 »

Phaeton is 5 years old today. Nothing has gone wrong other than service items and that means just the tyres. Two bulbs went when under warranty a couple of years ago but that happened the day before the service!!

I bought a warranty for years 4 and 5 from Warranty Wise for £420 a year which I have not had to call on.

Now of course at 5 years old the price is £70 a month for 1 year or £61 a month for 3 years.

If anything does go wrong it will be mega expensive eg - brake discs all round at a dealer will be £1100 which are not covered as a service item of course  - should I go indie???

Arguably to run a car like this for £61 a month plus your service items and road tax and fuel  is not bad value but it still narks. For that money I have a max single repair of £5000 no excess and no limit on number of claims, £200 per hour labour rate, and airbags, multimedia etc covered. Unlimited mileage as well.

Don't like to pay out for this but sod's law tells me that I am now entering the vulnerable years and if I don't do it I will get a problem.

On Phaeton website quite a mixed bag of views as you would expect but at £61 a month some think it is a no brainer to go for a warranty.

This is often the case.

Still, it's only £840 down the pan...... ;D
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« Reply #14 on: 23 December 2014, 17:27:29 »

Phaeton is 5 years old today. Nothing has gone wrong other than service items and that means just the tyres. Two bulbs went when under warranty a couple of years ago but that happened the day before the service!!

I bought a warranty for years 4 and 5 from Warranty Wise for £420 a year which I have not had to call on.

Now of course at 5 years old the price is £70 a month for 1 year or £61 a month for 3 years.

If anything does go wrong it will be mega expensive eg - brake discs all round at a dealer will be £1100 which are not covered as a service item of course  - should I go indie???

Arguably to run a car like this for £61 a month plus your service items and road tax and fuel  is not bad value but it still narks. For that money I have a max single repair of £5000 no excess and no limit on number of claims, £200 per hour labour rate, and airbags, multimedia etc covered. Unlimited mileage as well.

Don't like to pay out for this but sod's law tells me that I am now entering the vulnerable years and if I don't do it I will get a problem.

On Phaeton website quite a mixed bag of views as you would expect but at £61 a month some think it is a no brainer to go for a warranty.




Agreed. I have a phone on effectively-unlimited contract for that very reason, peace of mind. I don't ever have to go into any settings, or check online, or wait for a statement or whatever to come through to see 'ah, I've just gone over... £110 on texts.... ooops' (yes, that happened once, new girlfriend  ::) )

However, just looking at the brake discs you mention... £1100 fitted. I have no knowledge of the Phaeton's inner workings, but to replace the discs on one can't be greatly different from any other modern car. Wheels off, undo caliper bolts, hang out of the way, undo allen screw, disc off, new one on, refit is the reverse of removal... (happy to be disproven on this, though)

Found on a forum someone getting genuine discs from main dealer all round for £320 inc shipping, and that price comes down to £50 a pair if you want to go non-OEM. I'm a little intrigued to hear where the dealer is spending the missing £780...  ???

I can fully appreciate the repair costs of a brand-new / nearly new car are astronomical, because in your case, unlike the Omega, you just won't find one every week in a scrappy. Parts are specialist, or main dealer; and that's why you've gone down the warranty route. Just to play devil's advocate... if you'd put the £820 you'd spent on the warranty in 2 years into the Bank, that'd be about £850 now, and there as a 'kitty' should you have needed any repair work, which you haven't. At £70/month in another year, that'd grow to practically double = £1711, or at the £61/month 3 yr route = £3000+. It's a gamble, of course, that's warranties for you, maybe you will, maybe you won't. If the Phaeton's the reliable Omega-replacer you hope it to be, then no. On the other hand - consider the car's overall value in 3 year's time. If then it's only worth about or less than £3k, well, you've got more in your bank than the car's resale value, so then you'd be a very happy boy.  :)

Taxi Al makes a fine point, too - don't know if a warranty would replace a part like brakes, that are designed to wear away, any more than they would if it ran out of fuel because you hadn't topped it up.

I'm not wanting to appear negative, I'm simply offering another perspective  :) It's a decision only you can make, I think.

Thanks for this - sets out the dilemma very well. I have not renewed so as things stand now I have no warranty but the quote from Warranty wise is valid for 30days - some people have claimed a lot but I am only doing 10000 miles a year and only use it a few  times a month for long journeys. Omega takes the strain on everything else.
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