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Re: Rover Streetwise (25) engine solid - help!
« Reply #60 on: 12 January 2015, 20:55:44 »

Although not absolutely essential, a flywheel lock makes life easier.

4x4, my K ran fine on GM red, which isn't OAT. Just ensure all OAT is flushed out
Can I buy a flywheel lock, or perhaps make one? Would it go in the starter hole?

The cam lock is all you need for the K Terry,it slots between the cams to stop them turning,the crank is well marked at the pulley end,just bear in mind that this engine is timed at 90 degrees btdc :y
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Re: Rover Streetwise (25) engine solid - help!
« Reply #61 on: 13 January 2015, 07:30:39 »

Although not absolutely essential, a flywheel lock makes life easier.

4x4, my K ran fine on GM red, which isn't OAT. Just ensure all OAT is flushed out
Can I buy a flywheel lock, or perhaps make one? Would it go in the starter hole?
Possible to improvise. There is an access plate to flywheel. Flywheel needs locking to undo crank pulley
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Re: Rover Streetwise (25) engine solid - help!
« Reply #62 on: 14 January 2015, 15:56:33 »

Although not absolutely essential, a flywheel lock makes life easier.

4x4, my K ran fine on GM red, which isn't OAT. Just ensure all OAT is flushed out
Can I buy a flywheel lock, or perhaps make one? Would it go in the starter hole?
Possible to improvise. There is an access plate to flywheel. Flywheel needs locking to undo crank pulley
Thanks TB. I have Streetwise Haynes open before me, 2A5.5. It depicts the home made crankshaft locking device, tells me to 'with the flat bar on the bolt, pass the bolt through the empty hole in the flywheel housing. Fit and tighten the nut so that the bar is protruding in front of the teeth on the flywheel ring gear.' Does he mean use one of the holes that held the screws that held the cover? I see no other holes in the flywheel housing.
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Re: Rover Streetwise (25) engine solid - help!
« Reply #63 on: 14 January 2015, 17:40:36 »

I've just checked the crankshaft pulley bolt torque - 205Nm! How do I get that off? All the while holding the crankshaft stationary with a screwdriver in the starter gear.
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« Reply #64 on: 14 January 2015, 17:51:26 »

Use the force young jedi

Well the starter,long breaker bar,impact socket,wedge it so it will undo the bolt,and then turn over the engine which should then crack the bolt free,failing that put it in 5th gear,get some1 to apply brakes very hard and then undo  :y
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« Reply #65 on: 14 January 2015, 18:41:49 »

I've just checked the crankshaft pulley bolt torque - 205Nm! How do I get that off? All the while holding the crankshaft stationary with a screwdriver in the starter gear.
A. 3/8" ratchet would undo that ;D seriously, a breaker bar will be fine :y it's about half the torque of an Omega front hub nut... ::)
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Re: Rover Streetwise (25) engine solid - help!
« Reply #66 on: 14 January 2015, 19:02:59 »

I've just checked the crankshaft pulley bolt torque - 205Nm! How do I get that off? All the while holding the crankshaft stationary with a screwdriver in the starter gear.

That's only about wheel nut tight for tyre monkeys. :-X
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Re: Rover Streetwise (25) engine solid - help!
« Reply #67 on: 14 January 2015, 19:15:23 »

Use the force young jedi

Well the starter,long breaker bar,impact socket,wedge it so it will undo the bolt,and then turn over the engine which should then crack the bolt free,failing that put it in 5th gear,get some1 to apply brakes very hard and then undo  :y
Haynes tells me to lock the crankshaft with a screwdriver in the starter gear supported by a made up tool mounted somehow. Meanwhile I have locked the camshaft sprockets and the cam belt is still on, so the crank must not turn. You reckon 5th gear and brakes hard on would do, would not break anything. Sounds much easier to me.
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Re: Rover Streetwise (25) engine solid - help!
« Reply #68 on: 14 January 2015, 19:17:31 »

Woops! Car is front wheel drive, and the front of the car is on axle stands. I suppose the brakes should hold it, though.
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Re: Rover Streetwise (25) engine solid - help!
« Reply #69 on: 14 January 2015, 19:20:17 »

Woops! Car is front wheel drive, and the front of the car is on axle stands. I suppose the brakes should hold it, though.
If it all goes pear shaped, you will take pictures, won't you? ;D
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« Reply #70 on: 14 January 2015, 19:28:58 »

Dont use cam lock while trying to undo crankbolt  :y
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Re: Rover Streetwise (25) engine solid - help!
« Reply #71 on: 14 January 2015, 19:49:44 »

Dont use cam lock while trying to undo crankbolt  :y
Good advice, thank you. I am just following Haynes. He says 5. align timing marks on camshafts; 6 Fit camshaft locking too; 7 Remove crankshaft pulley. I am working at 90 degrees BTDC so all pistons half way up bores, nice and safe. Later on he says remove camshaft locking tool and turn camshafts to reveal head bolts. Like you say, do not insert cmashaft locking tool.
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Re: Rover Streetwise (25) engine solid - help!
« Reply #72 on: 14 January 2015, 19:50:54 »

Use the force young jedi

Well the starter,long breaker bar,impact socket,wedge it so it will undo the bolt,and then turn over the engine which should then crack the bolt free,failing that put it in 5th gear,get some1 to apply brakes very hard and then undo  :y
Haynes tells me to lock the crankshaft with a screwdriver in the starter gear supported by a made up tool mounted somehow. Meanwhile I have locked the camshaft sprockets and the cam belt is still on, so the crank must not turn. You reckon 5th gear and brakes hard on would do, would not break anything. Sounds much easier to me.
Might the clutch slip?
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Re: Rover Streetwise (25) engine solid - help!
« Reply #73 on: 14 January 2015, 19:56:34 »

Any access to a nut gun Terry?,one of them(decent one) will undo crank pulley easily but as has been said do not insert cam locks until after pulley has been loosened.
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Re: Rover Streetwise (25) engine solid - help!
« Reply #74 on: 14 January 2015, 20:18:42 »

Any access to a nut gun Terry?,one of them(decent one) will undo crank pulley easily but as has been said do not insert cam locks until after pulley has been loosened.
Yes, I have a compressor and a big (3/4") impact wrench. I bought it to undo the crankshaft nut on my last Senator, but it failed. So  you recommend 5th gear engaged, footbrake hard on (wife) and wrench on max torque, camshft tool not in place. Sounds good to me.
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