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[omega3000]

Pulled a big hand full out both pipes ... gave the car a few
blasts then pulled a bit more out . Shone a torch up pipe and
all clear . Will keep an eye in it but car back box sounds
more throaty 

[ronnyd]

When you pull the tail out make sure you wear gloves as it will make your hands itch like hell the next day.Also a 3mm
rod bent to a small hook is a handy thing to have.

[omega3000]

When you pull the tail out make sure you wear gloves as it will make your hands itch like hell the next day.Also a 3mm
rod bent to a small hook is a handy thing to have.

Yes , i did take the precaution of wearing gloves  Took the car for a blast this afternoon and no more has come out . The hair stuff was soaking wet , amazing how the car even ran with all that blocking the tail pipe 

[ronnyd]

When you pull the tail out make sure you wear gloves as it will make your hands itch like hell the next day.Also a 3mm
rod bent to a small hook is a handy thing to have.

Yes , i did take the precaution of wearing gloves  Took the car for a blast this afternoon and no more has come out . The hair stuff was soaking wet , amazing how the car even ran with all that blocking the tail pipe 

It kept coming out on mine, i cut the old back box up when new one was fitted and the pipe through the centre was
was completely rotted away and this was letting the glass fibre filling through and out the back. there was miles of it.

[Entwood]

A small word of advice (?) or perhaps just my bad luck ..

on the old 2.5 I had the same appearance of "hair" from the exhaust and, as several here have done, I pulled out all I could and continued driving as all seemed OK ....... it was for quite a few weeks ....  until one day doing a "shade" over 70 on the motorway the car suddenly lost all power - or so it seemed - (luckily it was late and there was no-one behind me) and a very rapid deceleration took place ...  few seconds later there was a bloody HUGE bang that shook the whole car (and nearly caused a "brown trouser" moment) followed by a "scraping" sound and the engine picked up to normal .... on pulling onto the hard shoulder and after a few deep breathes it was obvious that the centre box had completely disintegrated and the pipe was dragging on the floor !!

It seems that the collapsing of the internals and the shedding of the "horse hair" had eventually completely blocked the exhaust flow - leading to the loss of power - followed by the built up pressure literally blowingthe system apart !!

Funny in hindsight ... but if there had been something very close behind me, or traffic had seen me in the outer lane and not the inner one .... it "could" have all gotten painful ... AA relay got me home and a new exhaust fixed it ... but all I say is ... be aware that it "might" bite you in the bum .... 

[DrAndyB]

A small word of advice (?) or perhaps just my bad luck ..

on the old 2.5 I had the same appearance of "hair" from the exhaust and, as several here have done, I pulled out all I could and continued driving as all seemed OK ....... it was for quite a few weeks ....  until one day doing a "shade" over 70 on the motorway the car suddenly lost all power - or so it seemed - (luckily it was late and there was no-one behind me) and a very rapid deceleration took place ...  few seconds later there was a bloody HUGE bang that shook the whole car (and nearly caused a "brown trouser" moment) followed by a "scraping" sound and the engine picked up to normal .... on pulling onto the hard shoulder and after a few deep breathes it was obvious that the centre box had completely disintegrated and the pipe was dragging on the floor !!

It seems that the collapsing of the internals and the shedding of the "horse hair" had eventually completely blocked the exhaust flow - leading to the loss of power - followed by the built up pressure literally blowingthe system apart !!

Funny in hindsight ... but if there had been something very close behind me, or traffic had seen me in the outer lane and not the inner one .... it "could" have all gotten painful ... AA relay got me home and a new exhaust fixed it ... but all I say is ... be aware that it "might" bite you in the bum .... 

Thanks for heads up.  Any change to engine or exhaust note and I shall get a complete new system fitted.  Looks like the Eternal clamshell ones appear popular and as close to the GM one I still have on the car after 10 years 

[robson]

That has scared us into action Dr Andy B let us know how you get on with Eternal I tried sorting an exhaust with them but found it rather difficult.Are there any local suppliers that make good systems.

[Mr Gav]

A small word of advice (?) or perhaps just my bad luck ..

on the old 2.5 I had the same appearance of "hair" from the exhaust and, as several here have done, I pulled out all I could and continued driving as all seemed OK ....... it was for quite a few weeks ....  until one day doing a "shade" over 70 on the motorway the car suddenly lost all power - or so it seemed - (luckily it was late and there was no-one behind me) and a very rapid deceleration took place ...  few seconds later there was a bloody HUGE bang that shook the whole car (and nearly caused a "brown trouser" moment) followed by a "scraping" sound and the engine picked up to normal .... on pulling onto the hard shoulder and after a few deep breathes it was obvious that the centre box had completely disintegrated and the pipe was dragging on the floor !!

It seems that the collapsing of the internals and the shedding of the "horse hair" had eventually completely blocked the exhaust flow - leading to the loss of power - followed by the built up pressure literally blowing the system apart !!

Funny in hindsight ... but if there had been something very close behind me, or traffic had seen me in the outer lane and not the inner one .... it "could" have all gotten painful ... AA relay got me home and a new exhaust fixed it ... but all I say is ... be aware that it "might" bite you in the bum .... 

I had a very similar experience, only mine was losing power gradually to the point where it wouldn`t pull the skin off a rice pudding. I was looking for all sorts of faults but never thought about a blocked exhaust (no horse hair) until the day i was overtaking a 4x4 towing a caravan uphill, third gear and really struggling to get past and then BOOM, car takes off like a scalded cat, cloud of soot and a baffle bouncing into the offside verge wrapped in a ball of horse hair. The back box had split down the seam and the baffle had come out of the side and hit the heat shield at the side of the fuel tank.
A couple of weeks later the fuel tank needed replacing as it had started leaking from a small split where the baffle hit it.

That one did bite me in the bum 

[05omegav6]

Had that too, fortunately the back box only split, and didn't damage the heatshield/boot floor, though being an estate probably helped that as the back box is further outboard

They don't half go bang though

[robson]

Taxi Al  I assume that  that means that the back box was blocked so tacking out the hair must help to stop a build up of pressure

[omega3000]

Time to get the angle grinder out then 

Where do i order Eternal exhausts from ?

[4x4]

Ebay 

[Terbs]

Is this the place...

http://store.eternalcar.com/

[05omegav6]

Is this the place...

http://store.eternalcar.com/

Doubt it  apparently they don't do complete exhausts and list Bosal as a supplier... neither are a good sign

[TheBoy]

If its let the wadding out, its rusted badly, and will fall off soon anyway. Exhausts rot from inside outwards.

ETS or Eternal.  ETS generally slightly cheaper, quality is the same (very good), far better than what factors and exhaust places will stock.

Replace all 3 sections at the same time. Buy some exhaust paste (Hellfrauds will sell) for the joints.

Neither ETS or Eternal supply decent fitting kits, so do not pay extra for these, and budget for buying locally if necessary.

ETS should be about £90 delivered (week - 10 days), Eternal slightly more.  Other bits should only be a few quid locally, but you may not know what you need until you start.