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[Terbs]

I see Microsoft are releasing Windows 10 as a free upgrade during its first year for OS back to Windows 7. Roll on.....if its any good

[Varche]

Free upgrade? microsoft don,t sell much hardware so where is the profit in free?

maybe win8 was so awful they are trying to woo users back!

I will stick with Win9

[Gaffers]

I think that Microsoft are seeing the writing on the wall with OS sales, they will only make their money with Enterprise OS licenses where they can offer support and upgrades for fixes to errors and vulnerabilities.

More money can be made from newer technologies and the hardware that run them as we see with Android and Apple products.  This is where MS seem to be going albeit somewhat reluctantly it seems.

That said a friend of mine is on the Beta program for Win10 and he says it is excellent

[zirk]

Its got a Start Menu, which is a start for starters.

[Kevin Wood]

Yep, they made a duff release with Win. 8, just like Vista. 

Vista scared everyone off moving from XP for a very long time, and 8 will do the same for Win 7.

If that happens again, the platform is dead. Home users are leaving PCs in their droves for tablets and other devices that are just less hassle, and most enterprises have not long migrated to 7, hence the carrot to migrate in the first year. I smell desperation.

[Mr Gav]

I saw some snippets on the pc pro newsletter this morning and like what I saw. I went from XP to win 7 and loved it and still do, win 8 I thought was a bit of a mess and nothing there to tempt me to change but windows 10 might just do that.
If it`s free I probably will jump ship but I read a little while ago that it might be subscription based like office 365, if that's the case I`ll stick with win 7.

[AndyRoid]

I will stick with Win9

You are the only person in history that has a copy to my knowledge 

[zirk]

I will stick with Win9

You are the only person in history that has a copy to my knowledge 

Maybe he meant 98.

[TheBoy]

Yep, they made a duff release with Win. 8, just like Vista. 

Vista scared everyone off moving from XP for a very long time, and 8 will do the same for Win 7.

If that happens again, the platform is dead. Home users are leaving PCs in their droves for tablets and other devices that are just less hassle, and most enterprises have not long migrated to 7, hence the carrot to migrate in the first year. I smell desperation.

Vista wasn't so bad. It was actually quite good (bar a slow startup).  It was just a little too different from XP, and techie people are notoriously lazy to learn new tricks, and easily frustrated by the extra protection better security enforces.

[AndyRoid]

Vista wasn't so bad. It was actually quite good (bar a slow startup).  It was just a little too different from XP, and techie people are notoriously lazy to learn new tricks, and easily frustrated by the extra protection better security enforces.

We had it on Rhonda's laptop for quite a while and (as you say) bar the initial startup it actually worked quite well.
I was well used to 2K by that point so the extra security was child's play, if anything the only real niggle I had was the ATI display driver would occasionally crash so I ended up installing the Microsoft one.
Sure it castrated the options as it was just the basic driver, but as it was used primarily for work that didn't really bother me.

[X30XE]

Windows 7 should have been called Windows "There..We'veFinishedIt".   

And then left it alone 

[Kevin Wood]

Yep, they made a duff release with Win. 8, just like Vista. 

Vista scared everyone off moving from XP for a very long time, and 8 will do the same for Win 7.

If that happens again, the platform is dead. Home users are leaving PCs in their droves for tablets and other devices that are just less hassle, and most enterprises have not long migrated to 7, hence the carrot to migrate in the first year. I smell desperation.

Vista wasn't so bad. It was actually quite good (bar a slow startup).  It was just a little too different from XP, and techie people are notoriously lazy to learn new tricks, and easily frustrated by the extra protection better security enforces.

The number of bricked Vista PCs I've had to rescue for relatives suggests otherwise, but, regardless of the quality of the software, which I never actually used in anger myself, it was a flop for issues beyond the technical. It arrived just when everyone was freshly committed to XP was clearly going to need a bit of investment to get users up to speed, finances were in a right state and so on.. Microsoft's product update cycle just doesn't dance to the same beat as industry's.

They are looking at history repeating now. I suspect they are relying on migration from 7 to 10 to move towards a more unified platfiorm on PCs, surface and mobile, because it's anything but at the moment, so have decided to sacrifice some desktop revenue as a last ditch attempt to achieve that.

I also fully expect there to be a catch.

[Varche]

I will stick with Win9

You are the only person in history that has a copy to my knowledge 

It will be worth a bob or two then!

[dbug]

I will stick with Win9

You are the only person in history that has a copy to my knowledge 

It will be worth a bob or two then!

Yep at least 2 bob   

[TheBoy]

Yep, they made a duff release with Win. 8, just like Vista. 

Vista scared everyone off moving from XP for a very long time, and 8 will do the same for Win 7.

If that happens again, the platform is dead. Home users are leaving PCs in their droves for tablets and other devices that are just less hassle, and most enterprises have not long migrated to 7, hence the carrot to migrate in the first year. I smell desperation.

Vista wasn't so bad. It was actually quite good (bar a slow startup).  It was just a little too different from XP, and techie people are notoriously lazy to learn new tricks, and easily frustrated by the extra protection better security enforces.

The number of bricked Vista PCs I've had to rescue for relatives suggests otherwise, but, regardless of the quality of the software, which I never actually used in anger myself, it was a flop for issues beyond the technical. It arrived just when everyone was freshly committed to XP was clearly going to need a bit of investment to get users up to speed, finances were in a right state and so on.. Microsoft's product update cycle just doesn't dance to the same beat as industry's.

They are looking at history repeating now. I suspect they are relying on migration from 7 to 10 to move towards a more unified platfiorm on PCs, surface and mobile, because it's anything but at the moment, so have decided to sacrifice some desktop revenue as a last ditch attempt to achieve that.

I also fully expect there to be a catch.

Vista was launched before the financial crisis. Oddly, the more popular^* Windows 7 was launched as the crisis was taking hold.

XP was already old and shite by then (XP was built before MS realised that to let system near a hostile network (the internet) it needed to be programmed with security in mind).


^* Although Win 7 is heavily pirated, where as Vista wasn't, which may help explain the high take-up