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[tidla]

I always imagined it was 21 years of age with all the restrictions they put on young drivers these days.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-31454693

http://www.cttstraining.co.uk/courses_catc.php

Very sad. Can see the law changing on this one.

[kevinp58]

Just goes to show lowering the limit isn't always a good thing. Unfortunately in this case innocent people have died. 

[ted_one]

Used to be an instructor with Nat Ex,and then we would never even look at any applicants under 21.....basically because the company self insure and they made their own rules.Probably missed out on some potentially good drivers younger candidates were easier to train...especially  car drivers who had not long passed their test. Regrettably always exceptions to the rules though

[Vamps]

I thought HGV and PSV were 21, well they certainly used to be when I took them, I admit it was a few years ago now.........

[05omegav6]

I thought HGV and PSV were 21, well they certainly used to be when I took them, I admit it was a few years ago now.........

Prerequisites are:
Over 18 for Lgv C (21 for trailer entitlement entitlement)
Full licence for at least a year
Lgv Theory
Hazard perception
CPC theory
CPC practical
Lgv practical

The two CPC tests are designed for new commercial drivers with no experience and cover all sorts of things that older drivers would have either learnt on the job or never bothered about... From checking for stowaways to diet/lifestyle advice

To be 19 and driving a tipper would suggest a promising career, as he wouldn't have been employed lightly...

[candyman]

The republic of ireland had the age at 17 for some cases. Seen 17yr olds driving brand new daf xfs at 40t being driven by them regular. And they where going to england etc. They are still driving today as I see them regular and where pretty good with the trucks, didn't abuse them etc. This was at least 10 yrs ago, and there was some rule about it, maybe could only drive for there family or something.

[biggriffin]

Nobody moaned, 70 years ago when 18year olds with 9hrs experience were flying hurricane's and spitfires, or 20 year olds flying bombers after 3-6 months conversion.

[tidla]

Nobody moaned, 70 years ago when 18year olds with 9hrs experience were flying hurricane's and spitfires, or 20 year olds flying bombers after 3-6 months conversion.

Needs must. While looking for a bit more info, i came across this page.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/history-of-road-safety-and-the-driving-test/history-of-road-safety-the-highway-code-and-the-driving-test

Im guessing they didnt stop driving either when required.

[henryd]

Just goes to show lowering the limit isn't always a good thing. Unfortunately in this case innocent people have died. 

I didn't see any mention that the driver was at fault,or is it because he's 19 he had to be.

[Andy B]

Just goes to show lowering the limit isn't always a good thing. Unfortunately in this case innocent people have died. 

I didn't see any mention that the driver was at fault,or is it because he's 19 he had to be.

That seems to be the implication so far. He sounded the horn before the crash which implies to that there was a problem in stopping the tipper. 

[henryd]

Just goes to show lowering the limit isn't always a good thing. Unfortunately in this case innocent people have died. 

I didn't see any mention that the driver was at fault,or is it because he's 19 he had to be.

That seems to be the implication so far. He sounded the horn before the crash which implies to that there was a problem in stopping the tipper. 

It wouldn't be the first time that a  lorry has burnt its brakes,look in any escape lane and you'll see trenches where some poor sod has piled in.

[Lagondanet]

Just goes to show lowering the limit isn't always a good thing. Unfortunately in this case innocent people have died. 

I didn't see any mention that the driver was at fault,or is it because he's 19 he had to be.

Correct. Let's not jump to conclusions. 

[tidla]

Looks like an older scania, possibly with drums all round?

Poorly adjusted brakes with hot shoes and drums, full load and a keen driver..

Took me two goes to get thru the test at 27. doubt i would of had the skills required at 19.

[05omegav6]

Indeed... No mean feat passing the car test as a hormonal yoof imho

[Andy B]

Looks like an older scania, possibly with drums all round?

Poorly adjusted brakes with hot shoes and drums, full load and a keen driver..

Took me two goes to get thru the test at 27. doubt i would of had the skills required at 19.

but the driver obviously had because he passed the test ........ let's not hang him before we know the facts.