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[ckz]

since this Guy is in Power loads lost of People have lost a lot.
small Businesses shut down making the Living hard, Pensioners, Disabled People lost loads of there Standarts,
old cars being supported to get of the road so everybody should go on a bloody Bus and general late overfilled Trains,
no |Money can be Spend to the People living in this Country because we apparently have none.
now the news: obese people loosing there benefits, or can be forced to, because they cost the govt to much money,

but we can send troops everywhere to help people in other countrys,
we spending loads of foreign aid to help other country's people,
we paying of terrorist groups so they don't attack us,
our NHS helping people in other country's with our medicin and equipment for free
and the govt guys sitting in the parliament and getting a load of money for all that.

i can remember 8 years back you needed money you go and got  a job.
now you need a certificate for whatever you do, so spend first before you can earn.
the company bosses being supported by the govt so people loosing more and more rights for the benefits of companys

really getting sick of going to work and see my money is going sonewhere else so people somewhere else having a good livestyle and we suppose being one of the richest country's don't be rich anymore.


me, i don't give a opps what's happened to others so long we have cheap widescreen tv's, big cars, motorbikes, cheap petrol, cheap food, cheap mortgage's and rent, and all the nice standard's we should have.
it should not be up to us supporting the lazy country's to have they same.
they should pull there fingers out there arses and do some.

i have a answer of some of it, as we go on holiday we spend ou money in those countrys, living like a king for less and they bending backwards for us to come, that is loads better,
terrorist group's don't need to be paid of, if one caught and prooven guilty should be hanged, shot, of otherwise official killed, so as they do to others.
sorry, just pissed off with this guy as it seems he has a target of destroying this country and throw us all back in the 70s.

we should never vote a company owner in this job. army leaders are the best. no foreign aid, no interest in what people have in other country's.

[the alarming man]

thing being is ckz this is history repeating itself...i remember the last time around i was working for the NHS at that time and we had people dying in corridors of hospitals due to no beds...and it is happening again but this time around it is my mum who is on the hospital bed...but the nurses do the best with the limited resources....i think the term he used was i will ring fence the NHS....yeah right lying self-abuser...thing is people have very short memories

[Steve B]

What you need to remember is ....We Are All In This Together Cos Dave Said So 

[TheBoy]

Sadly, whoever wins, we need to tighten our belts even further.  There is not a bottomless pit of money, and the amount we (UK plc) are paying back in interest on our debt is crippling. So we need to repay that debt. Simple, basic economics.

To repay that debt, every man, woman and child, not just those working, need to stump up about £25k each.  Remember, that's if we did it now.  The government are still massively spending more than they are bringing in to the tune of over £100bn a year (so add another £1700 plus interest to that £25k we all owe every year we delay it).  That means closing down the NHS entirely would just about bring us to break even - assuming we all coughed up £25k to pay off the debt. The previous government in particular, were so incredibly reckless and naïve to think a recession could never happen. Idiots.

I hope that explains the size of the problem. Obviously, very few of us could cough up that amount, and tolerate the NHS being shut down, and we need to realise that we have quite simply run out of rich people. So this is a burden we all have to share, and accept.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

This lot are indeed pretty crap. The previous lot were a thousand times worse. If Milliband gets the key to number 10 and Balls the key to number 11 in May, we will be worse off than Greece in five years time.
NHS - it has many serious problems, but despite what the media tell us, the problems aren't related to a shortage of funds.
The fact that it employs over 1.6 million people, over half of whom have no medical qualifications, might point to a good place to start if we want to improve it.
It created 18,000 extra jobs in the 2nd quarter of 2014 alone ! How did it cope previously without these 18,000 people ?
The NHS budget in 2004 was £64 billion. Last year it was £109.7 billion. Even allowing for inflation that is an enormous increase.
This years budget is £113 billion. There is no amount of money which would ever be enough to keep it running in its current form.
It needs massive fundamental change, but there isn't a politician with the backbone to grasp that nettle.

[TheBoy]

It needs massive fundamental change, but there isn't a politician with the backbone to grasp that nettle.

I've said hundreds of times on this forum, it needs closing down. If the will is there, rebuild it again from the ground up. But the current setup has been looked at by successful business experts, and all have agreed, it cannot be fixed as it is.

[Shackeng]

One of the reasons that most people are p****d off with ALL politicians is that there are three issues that should transcend Party Politics.
1. Defence of the realm, which should be the prime responsibility of any Government.
2. NHS.
3. Education.
All these need a Government of National Unity, or, at least, agreement between all parties.
It will never happen. Why? Because politicians are such self-serving bastards that personal power and advancement is far more important to them than the welfare of the UK and its citizens.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

The current governments dismantling of our defences in these potentially dangerous times is a shocking abdication of their responsibilities.
I suspect defence is an easy target for saving money as soldiers etc. cant strike or even march in protest, and the left aren't going to squeal about defence cuts as they would with almost any other type of cuts.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

It needs massive fundamental change, but there isn't a politician with the backbone to grasp that nettle.

I've said hundreds of times on this forum, it needs closing down. If the will is there, rebuild it again from the ground up, with the unions and  management gravy train kept out of the whole process. But the current setup has been looked at by successful business experts, and all have agreed, it cannot be fixed as it is.

Agreed.

[Sir Tigger KC]

The list of replacements for Cameron are hardly inspiring in my opinion. 

Ed Milliband
Nick Clegg
Nigel Farage

So in these continued troubled times we are better off sticking with the devils we know, who at least in the last 5 years have attempted to grasp a few nettles like welfare, the EU, the NHS, education, the national debt/deficit, public spending etc etc. and have taken some very unpopular but probably necessary decisions. 

Despite what the naysayers and Guardianistas would have us believe I think that things are getting better in this country than they were 5 years ago, not much I grant you but it was always going to be a long slow uphill climb out of the hole that we were in.    At least the economy is growing which in time will improve all our finances.   

Sadly no government of any stripes can wave a magic wand and instantly provide people with cheap widescreen TV's.   As for socialism we only have to look across the channel to see how France is faring, and I'm watching the new Greek government with interest who were voted in on populist policies that they have already started to implement, without securing the necessary income.  I can't see that ending well. 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

I don't think the incumbents have grasped any of those nettles at all to be honest. The debt is mounting faster than it ever has, and the other areas are pretty shambolic from incompetent fiddling at the edges to try to please their supporters, without actually changing anything in a serious or meaningful way.
The economy is improving slowly but that's little if anything to do with the govt.
However, if Labour get back in they will finish the job they started in 1997 and destroy whats left of U.K. PLC.
We need to readjust the British mindset away from believing the Govt. / state is responsible for taking care of all our problems and looking after us come what may - the very definition of socialism.
We need a much smaller state which steals (albeit legally) much less of our income and assets from us and then leaves us much better placed to look after ourselves
Greece could be interesting if the new govt. sticks to its election pledges. If they don't,I imagine they might face a public lynching.

[05omegav6]

The list of replacements for Cameron are hardly inspiring in my opinion. 

Ed Milliband
Nick Clegg
Nigel Farage

So in these continued troubled times we are better off sticking with the devils we know, who at least in the last 5 years have attempted to grasp a few nettles like welfare, the EU, the NHS, education, the national debt/deficit, public spending etc etc. and have taken some very unpopular but probably necessary decisions. 

Despite what the naysayers and Guardianistas would have us believe I think that things are getting better in this country than they were 5 years ago, not much I grant you but it was always going to be a long slow uphill climb out of the hole that we were in.    At least the economy is growing which in time will improve all our finances.   

Sadly no government of any stripes can wave a magic wand and instantly provide people with cheap widescreen TV's.   As for socialism we only have to look across the channel to see how France is faring, and I'm watching the new Greek government with interest who were voted in on populist policies that they have already started to implement, without securing the necessary income.  I can't see that ending well. 

Well said

Certainly if any of those alternatives make it into Downing Street, it won't be from my vote...

Did anyone realistically expect a coalition to fix in five years everything that the previous shower of shit took 12 years to destroy, especially given the state of the global economy since 2008

Don't forget, it took Maggie five years to drag the UK kicking and screaming out of the seventies, and her foundations lasted well into Tony 'Treason' Blairs second term...

Constantly kicking someone because of where they went to school/university, simply suggests narrow minded jealousy... give it a rest

[Varche]

Interesting- the point about people being fed up with politics. Apart from Britain ought to follow suit of other countries and ban all electioneering until two weeks before voting. Spain does that for eample. My question is while all these tours are going on who is governing the country? Who is actually in parliament debating the thousands of bills that should be being debated to improve the lot of GBltd.

Back to people being fed up of politics. I think that there is a real under current of that at the moment.

Greece. Syriza, voted in because people were fed up of the previous regimes and austerity. They haven't a hope of making a go of it.
Spain. Podemos (brand new political party only created 13 months ago.) Current polls put it 27%,23% 22%. i.e. in lead against the "Conservative and Labour".
France National Front doing well.

UK. UKIP? Are people saying they are going to vote UKIP as a protest vote or for their policies?

NHS It needs a complete overhaul to make it fit for the modern age. I would start with charging for consultations £10 for doctor and £100 surgeon etc. Straight away that would reduce dramatically reduce missed appointments and speed up resolutions.
7 day working all days being same
Cost of quality excercise. Why was Mrs V's aunt referred to another hospital minus her previous but one hospital notes of her actual accident. Why was she discharged on only two of the previous six medicines? I could go on.. Yet they all claim to be working really hard and probably are doing failure work.

As to the UK, you are stuck in an endless cycle of fixed term parliaments oscillating from Conservative to Labour with their associated policies( make the rich richer  OR spend money that isn't there for the poorer). Occasionally something will pop up to relieve the tedium like Lib Dems coalition, SNP coalition.

None of them will reduce the deficit - it isn't in their interests to wallop the country, one of the worlds top ten richest by the way, they would never get back in. That wouldn't do! 
 

[the alarming man]

It needs massive fundamental change, but there isn't a politician with the backbone to grasp that nettle.

I've said hundreds of times on this forum, it needs closing down. If the will is there, rebuild it again from the ground up. But the current setup has been looked at by successful business experts, and all have agreed, it cannot be fixed as it is

I would have to agree with you on this one

[Kevin Wood]

It needs massive fundamental change, but there isn't a politician with the backbone to grasp that nettle.

I've said hundreds of times on this forum, it needs closing down. If the will is there, rebuild it again from the ground up. But the current setup has been looked at by successful business experts, and all have agreed, it cannot be fixed as it is

I would have to agree with you on this one

That may well be true, but the day we have to rely on insurance companies to look after our health will be the day I emigrate.