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[BazaJT]

While waiting in barbers I had a read of one of the papers and saw an item about someone caught for speeding.Apparently he was clocked doing 120m.p.h. on a dual carriageway and summoned to appearon a charge of dangerous driving.His solicitor is it seems challenging this saying his client will agree to a guilty plea of careless driving but not dangerous driving as speed in and of itself is not dangerous.Be interesting to find out how this one pans out!

[tigers_gonads]

Anybody doing 120 mph on a duel carriageway is a cock and deserves to be locked up 

Its not about how good / fast your car is or how good a driver you are, its about the other muppets who are on the road.

I don't give a toss who you think you are, at 120 mph on a 2 duel carriageway and given the driving standards of today, there is no way on earth you can avoid a pile up if something goes wrong or some muppet does something stupid in front of you 

5 year ban and 6 full months inside on soap duty with Big Winston 

Now how do I apply to be a magistrate 

[BazaJT]

I quite agree with you on that score,at that sort of speed things can tend to go south rather quickly!Like I said I would be curious to see how his solicitors defence of it not being dangerous but merely careless[as in oops that was careless of me not to notice I was going stupidly fast]and if any magistrate is gullible enough to accept it.

[tigers_gonads]

I quite agree with you on that score,at that sort of speed things can tend to go south rather quickly!Like I said I would be curious to see how his solicitors defence of it not being dangerous but merely careless[as in oops that was careless of me not to notice I was going stupidly fast]and if any magistrate is gullible enough to accept it.

Probably a invasion of his human rights or some other 'dangle berries'

Put your money on it

[GastronomicKleptomaniac]

Anybody doing 120 mph on a duel carriageway is a cock and deserves to be locked up 

Its not about how good / fast your car is or how good a driver you are, its about the other muppets who are on the road.

I don't give a toss who you think you are, at 120 mph on a 2 duel carriageway and given the driving standards of today, there is no way on earth you can avoid a pile up if something goes wrong or some muppet does something stupid in front of you 

5 year ban and 6 full months inside on soap duty with Big Winston 

Now how do I apply to be a magistrate 

...what if its completely empty?

[05omegav6]

Anybody doing 120 mph on a duel carriageway is a cock and deserves to be locked up 

Its not about how good / fast your car is or how good a driver you are, its about the other muppets who are on the road.

I don't give a toss who you think you are, at 120 mph on a 2 duel carriageway and given the driving standards of today, there is no way on earth you can avoid a pile up if something goes wrong or some muppet does something stupid in front of you 

5 year ban and 6 full months inside on soap duty with Big Winston 

Now how do I apply to be a magistrate 

...what if its completely empty?

That thought crossed my mind too

Only thing is, if it all goes Pete Tong, some poor sod still has to clean up the mess, and the less mess the better, as the aftermath is bad enough on it's own...

That's one thing that the God botherers seem to skim over when it comes to death... it's always the living that have to deal with it.

[05omegav6]

Apologies btw if that comes across as insensitive, not meant to be in any way, shape or form.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I believe that many  ahem...ahem.... 'German roads' are only two lanes wide.
120 MPH is just getting started.

[biggriffin]

Do as I say not as I do.!
O to be a 100% perfect law abiding driver.

[BazaJT]

Possibly so,and maybe that's fine "over there"where everyone is singing from the same hymn sheet.But the speed limit here is 70m.p.h. so he was at least 50 over[the article didn't state what the posted limit was when he  was knicked]then take into account the potential for ditherers and the state of our roads and you instantly have the makings of a disaster.Also as has been stated even if "only"a solo accident someone has to clear up the aftermath/inform relatives etc.,etc.
No I'll admit I'm far from being a 100% law abiding driver and in no way have I ever claimed to be perfect but even I have some respect for the consequences of such an excess of speed.

[Andy B]

depends on what car you're doing a ton 20 in as to how 'dangerous' it is. 120 is dead easy in a super car but if it's taken you 20 mins to wind your Capri up to 120, then that a different ball game.
ISTR a driver using the defence years ago and 'got off with it' ..... he was a professional race car driver & though he was doing sillymph it was deemed it wasn't dangerous.
If you stick a blue light on top & merely test your car at 159mph, then it appears that's OK 

[hercules]

think all I can say on this is that the law is there like it or not and sometimes breaking the speed limit is fine and feels totally safe and at times the limit feels too low but the limit is there and if broken then face the quensconsous as andy b states  about the car if a car can reach 120mph easily hopefully the design allows good brakes and a car that takes an eon to get to 120 mph isn't designed to be at them speeds and designed to stop quick and be safe at them and I didn't relaise I was going so fast is negligence

[BazaJT]

Now you mention them I too recall those instances.In most cases though I think it's not the capability of the vehicle itself but the ability of the driver to react at high speed to an "unforeseen"

[tidla]

Big difference in road design between dual carriageways and motorways. You aint gonna (on a normal day) get a maxxed out tractor doing 30mph pulling out of a "t" junction. ...

[Crazycarzowner]

When you've had to do the most unwanted job in the world as a traffic cop (walking up the path to tell someone the news no one wants to hear  ), you'll understand why the speed limits are there & why they are reducing in most places (Cheshires national speed limit roads are getting few & far between). Like a few have said on here its not the cars we are driving, they are brilliant compared to say 20 years ago. Its 'Idiot Drivers' who 'think' they know how to drive that spoil it for the rest of us sensible drivers. I'd say 80% of the RTC's I go to are due to rider / driver error and in the main going too fast for the conditions egs.

1. Ferrari driver the other week was told by the salesman 'don't turn off the traction control' - what does he do?? Ends up upside down on the motorway!

2. Biker out for a nice spring jaunt in the morning - nothing else on the road exits stage left on a r/h bend with nothing else on the road.

3. Young women overtakes on a national, looses it ends up in a tree - tree didn't move!

4. Reduce speed sign I put up last week - need I say more!

All the above under 30 1 dead 2 serious & 1 minor injuries and when you think of the cost to the country in hold ups & the fantastic cost of investigating a fatal RTC  Not to mention the pain & suffering to loved ones.