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[chrisgixer]

Anybody doing 120 mph on a duel carriageway is a cock and deserves to be locked up 

Its not about how good / fast your car is or how good a driver you are, its about the other muppets who are on the road.

I don't give a toss who you think you are, at 120 mph on a 2 duel carriageway and given the driving standards of today, there is no way on earth you can avoid a pile up if something goes wrong or some muppet does something stupid in front of you 

5 year ban and 6 full months inside on soap duty with Big Winston 

Now how do I apply to be a magistrate 

I wonder if TheBoys in blue are restricted to less than 120mph on a call out?

[Kevin Wood]

At the end of the day, if you're caught speeding, you're driving dangerously, IMHO.

Not necessarily because you're speeding - limits are set according to a very low lowest common denominator, but because you were clearly oblivious to a detection device at the time. Could just as easily have been another innocent motorist who was pulling out, quite rightly, not under the expectation that you'd be barrelling down on him at 120 MPH.

Let's face it, none of us are saints, but when pressing on, you need to be aware of everything in your stopping distance plus a good margin, be it a speed trap, few of which are that subtle, or any other hazard.

Tough verdict, but he did the crime...

[Crazycarzowner]

I wonder if The Boys in blue are restricted to less than 120mph on a call out?


Yep, of course we have rules!!!

Even Advanced drivers can only go 20 mph above red ringed speed limits, in nationals we can make progress when we are able to, same for motorways. We are scrutinized a lot more than people think, all the cars are fitted with black boxes like those in aircraft which record everything, every siren operation, blue light, brake, indicator. I've know quite a few who have come unstuck through this. When we go through speed traps above the 20 limit we are liable to having authorities revoked & prosecution.

[Andy B]

but as we've repeatedly said before, speed in itself doesn't kill, inappropriate speed does though.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-31778616

[chrisgixer]

I wonder if The Boys in blue are restricted to less than 120mph on a call out?


Yep, of course we have rules!!!

Even Advanced drivers can only go 20 mph above red ringed speed limits, in nationals we can make progress when we are able to, same for motorways. We are scrutinized a lot more than people think, all the cars are fitted with black boxes like those in aircraft which record everything, every siren operation, blue light, brake, indicator. I've know quite a few who have come unstuck through this. When we go through speed traps above the 20 limit we are liable to having authorities revoked & prosecution.

Yes I was referring to the scenario quoted. I.e. nationals.

So no then. If I understand your reply correctly re training etc.

Which doesn't suprise me in the least, is I've seen them making progress in such circumstances, clearly in excess of that figure. Dry, clear with no traffic Etc etc.

....point is the circumstances do exist where a vehichle can travel at those speeds on a public highway, and we should drive with that In mind imo.

Many an unexpecting wobble over into lane 3 with the righteous mind that nothing should be doing more than 70. (Or do so deliberately in the face of something doing alot more than 70.)Which is true, obviously the limit is 70.., however the reality is, as said. There are vehicles that legally do considerably more than the limit. And those that do so illegally. Neither legal or illegal makes a blind bit if differance when your dead as a result. Dead is dead and that's that.

So use that wing mirror.

That was all really.

[tigers_gonads]

Okay, i'm breaking my own rule about posting on here when half pished but here goes .....................

The average UK driver imo is shite.
Very little awareness of hazards on the roads.
Over confident beyond belief.
Arrogant to the point that they believe that no oppser can tell them what to do.

Over in sausage land, they are used to driving at speeds well over 90 mph when the rules allow.
People are used to looking in there mirror and being able to judge speed and how long it will take a vehicle to get from A to B
Over here, we are not 
In fact, at a guess, id say 30% of drivers have never drove on a motorway and believe me, it shows.
They are a friggin liability due to there inexperience traveling at 70 or 80 mph never mind 90mph plus.

Plod, and I know this for a fact do push the speed up when nobody is about.
They do it because the brain needs to learn how to react.
Quick question .................. be honest here, how many times have members on here been for a long drive on the motorway at shall we say, a little more then 70 plus 10%. You exit the motorway onto a duel carriageway or approach a roundabout and suddenly find you have to brake oppsing hard because you are travelling a lot faster then you think.
I'll put money on it that every oppser has 

As said before, its nothing to do with whether it a empty road or anything like that, its just a case of WE in the uk just are not used to those sort of speeds to do it safely.
And lets be honest now, if you do do those sort of speeds on a regular basis to the point that you are capable of reacting in time to hazards in time then you are either a decent plod driver (and I know a couple who shouldn't have a licence), a racing driver who drives close to the limit most weekends OR ONE LUCKY BASTARD TO STILL HAVE A LICENCE 


Right, i'm off to finish my beer cos i'm playing taxi driver for the missus at 7 o'clock in morning 

Night night ladies 

[Rods2]

If you want to go very fast on your hyperbike or Supercar, there are plenty of track days for doing so, without meeting trees, signposts, 92 year old, virtually-blind, confused, great-uncle Elmer's and great-aunty Ethel's who should stopped driving 20 years ago. If you run out of talent half way through a corner there are runoff areas.

Germany has motorways with no speed limits, but you do expect other motorists to be pressing on.

One of the reasons driving standards have dropped a lot in this country is due to the number of East European drivers over here, many of whom, bought their driving licences, to save the bother of learning how to drive or take a test. Mortality rates are much higher in Eastern Europe due to very poor driving standards, driving invincibility stupidity, poor road design and still some / many poor ex-Soviet cars depending upon the country.

[Broomies Mate]

Hmmm.  Funny.  I asked my father many years ago what was the fastest he has ever driven.  His answer was quite clear and brazen.  He proudly reposnded "I once did 110MPH in an E-Type down Tog Hill"

Anyone who knows the Bristol area will know the road, and at the bottom of Tog Hill is is relatively sharp right hand bend.....

I suppose, back then, the level of traffic was slight, so "using all the road" was an option.... I certainly wouldn't decend that particuar stretch of road at 110MPH in a modern car!

I've maxxed out a 3.2 Elite on a downhill stretch of motorway in the early hours.  I've hit the limiter (155) in several cars in the past.  Does speed kill?  Yes, but only when it's done badly.

[Vamps]

When you've had to do the most unwanted job in the world as a traffic cop (walking up the path to tell someone the news no one wants to hear  ), you'll understand why the speed limits are there & why they are reducing in most places (Cheshires national speed limit roads are getting few & far between). Like a few have said on here its not the cars we are driving, they are brilliant compared to say 20 years ago. Its 'Idiot Drivers' who 'think' they know how to drive that spoil it for the rest of us sensible drivers. I'd say 80% of the RTC's I go to are due to rider / driver error and in the main going too fast for the conditions egs.

1. Ferrari driver the other week was told by the salesman 'don't turn off the traction control' - what does he do?? Ends up upside down on the motorway!

2. Biker out for a nice spring jaunt in the morning - nothing else on the road exits stage left on a r/h bend with nothing else on the road.

3. Young women overtakes on a national, looses it ends up in a tree - tree didn't move!

4. Reduce speed sign I put up last week - need I say more!

All the above under 30 1 dead 2 serious & 1 minor injuries and when you think of the cost to the country in hold ups & the fantastic cost of investigating a fatal RTC  Not to mention the pain & suffering to loved ones.

Sorry Jason, but have to trump you on that one.........

[chrisgixer]

I'd love to go through police driver training.  ......I think, provided they don't ask me to talk, or multi task stuff. ......" SHUT UP I'M BUSAAAAY "

 Yes I know the passenger does the radio stuff, but even so.

[biggriffin]

I'd love to go through police driver training.  ......I think, provided they don't ask me to talk, or multi task stuff. ......" SHUT UP I'M BUSAAAAY "

 Yes I know the passenger does the radio stuff, but even so.

Go the rospa wwww and look there!

[chrisgixer]

I'd love to go through police driver training.  ......I think, provided they don't ask me to talk, or multi task stuff. ......" SHUT UP I'M BUSAAAAY "

 Yes I know the passenger does the radio stuff, but even so.

Go the rospa wwww and look there!

no thanks.

[JamesV6CDX]

I'd love to go through police driver training.  ......I think, provided they don't ask me to talk, or multi task stuff. ......" SHUT UP I'M BUSAAAAY "

 Yes I know the passenger does the radio stuff, but even so.

Sad fact is we are usually single crewed these days, on both response teams and roads policing, with maybe one double crewed unit and the rest of the officers working alone.  so driving on immediate grading and having to process information and ask questions about the incident we're making to, is pretty much the norm.

I absolutely loved my driver training. Best course I've ever done, learnt an awful lot. It's not all high speed stuff though, the candidate has to fully master the system of car control (roadcraft) at normal driving speeds, before being trained at higher speeds or to use blues.

To those who say we drive at high speeds to keep skills up etc. Maybe once upon a time it happened, but all the cars even pandas have a black box which scrutinise your driving to the n'th degree.

If something goes wrong especially if not on a shout and found to be speeding or otherwise driving poorly with no legal exemption, we'd be hung out to dry both internally and at court. It'd be a daft bobby to abuse driving privileges these days.

[05omegav6]

You're not allowed to even move a vehicle it the black box recorder has been tripped. And certainly no speeding in an unmarked vehicle, and often well below posted limit on dual carriageway/motorways in marked vehicles otherwise no bugger passes you

Down here internal licences have a twelve point limit, but if you reach 6 you either get reassessed or have licence revoked, depending on how you obtained them...

[Jusme]

A police officer was caught driving at 136mph while on a training exercise on one of the north-east’s busiest roads.

The officer, from the serious crime division, was spotted speeding on the A90 Dundee to Aberdeen road while at the wheel of a marked Scottish Police College Training Vehicle earlier this year.

However, the driver was granted “emergency service exemption” under a law that allows no imposed speed limit on vehicles being used for fire brigade, ambulance or police purposes.

The speed was faster than any other vehicle caught on camera this year that was attending a real emergency.

According to the figures, released under freedom of information legislation, the officer was travelling 16mph quicker than the highest speed recorded by police personnel on an emergency call in all of 2013/14.

Only 354 of 90,000 police caught on camera speeding or jumping red lights last year were punished.
Last night forces were accused of double standards after it emerged that only one in 200 officers was fined or given points, compared with 84 per cent of ordinary drivers.
In a quarter of the cases the police cars had their blue lights flashing, suggesting officers were attending an emergency.
However, nearly all of the rest had the slate wiped clean by senior police, saving them from three points on their licence and a £60 fine.
Managers have the discretion to cancel tickets if an officer can persuade them they had a good reason for speeding, such as pursuing a suspect or trying to find a witness.
But critics point out motorists enjoy no such rights and that if they want to challenge a fixed penalty notice they must go to court.
They also say the disparity between the figures raises the suspicion that thousands of officers are being let off even if they do not have a valid excuse for speeding.............................. 'hmmmmmmm'?