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Nickbat

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Just imagine...
« on: 04 July 2008, 23:44:58 »

...the chaos when the UK government copies this idea (Believe me, they will!!):


The city of Madison, Wisconsin, will make it illegal for motorists to wait at a red traffic light with their engines running. A member of the influential Madison Plan Commission will introduce an ordinance next month that will,

... require all operators of all vehicles, except police, ambulances, hybrids and diesel-powered trucks of more than five tons gross capacity, "to place the engines of the vehicles in non-emission state while waiting at traffic-control devices when the anticipated wait until proceeding is more than 30 seconds." Also covered in the ordinance is waiting in traffic jams, such as freeway backups, which will also require drivers to shut off their vehicle's engines. The exemption for high-gross diesel trucks was added by a subcommittee when it was pointed out that the time it would take to restart those vehicles and get them moving would likely increase congestion, thus adding to idling emissions overall.


See the rest here: http://senseofevents.blogspot.com/2008/06/red-light-idling-to-be-made-illegal.html
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Re: Just imagine...
« Reply #1 on: 04 July 2008, 23:47:57 »

Talk of the devil.  :o
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Re: Just imagine...
« Reply #2 on: 04 July 2008, 23:48:41 »

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Talk of the devil.  :o

Oi get your own line..I just said that.. ;)
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Re: Just imagine...
« Reply #3 on: 04 July 2008, 23:51:53 »

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...the chaos when the UK government copies this idea (Believe me, they will!!):


The city of Madison, Wisconsin, will make it illegal for motorists to wait at a red traffic light with their engines running. A member of the influential Madison Plan Commission will introduce an ordinance next month that will,

... require all operators of all vehicles, except police, ambulances, hybrids and diesel-powered trucks of more than five tons gross capacity, "to place the engines of the vehicles in non-emission state while waiting at traffic-control devices when the anticipated wait until proceeding is more than 30 seconds." Also covered in the ordinance is waiting in traffic jams, such as freeway backups, which will also require drivers to shut off their vehicle's engines. The exemption for high-gross diesel trucks was added by a subcommittee when it was pointed out that the time it would take to restart those vehicles and get them moving would likely increase congestion, thus adding to idling emissions overall.


See the rest here: http://senseofevents.blogspot.com/2008/06/red-light-idling-to-be-made-illegal.html

If this did become law in the UK, with our severe congestion and stop go traffic, everyone would need back up batteries as they would very quickly be drained! :'( :'(

The rule used to be for every battery start of the engine it took 15  minutes of travel to replace the discharge.  Perhaps cars will go back to the starting handles I knew! :-X :-X
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Re: Just imagine...
« Reply #4 on: 05 July 2008, 00:01:32 »

I can remember a few years ago i sat on the M4 in a traffic holdup for 2 hours......not going anywhere.......it was 30C outside and my 735i bmw sat idling.......keeping me cool with the climate......i could see the muppets that turned their engines off.....hanging out the windows.......maybe thay didnt have aircon  :-/.....not me....i stayed nice and  8-)
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« Reply #5 on: 05 July 2008, 00:06:44 »

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I can remember a few years ago i sat on the M4 in a traffic holdup for 2 hours......not going anywhere.......it was 30C outside and my 735i bmw sat idling.......keeping me cool with the climate......i could see the muppets that turned their engines off.....hanging out the windows.......maybe thay didnt have aircon  :-/.....not me....i stayed nice and  8-)

Didn't you get run over?
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« Reply #6 on: 05 July 2008, 07:21:47 »

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I can remember a few years ago i sat on the M4 in a traffic holdup for 2 hours......not going anywhere.......it was 30C outside and my 735i bmw sat idling.......keeping me cool with the climate......i could see the muppets that turned their engines off.....hanging out the windows.......maybe thay didnt have aircon  :-/.....not me....i stayed nice and  8-)

must of used some juice.   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Just imagine...
« Reply #7 on: 05 July 2008, 07:23:31 »

Yeah, I can see the westminster muppet show likeing that sicko idea.  >:(
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« Reply #8 on: 05 July 2008, 07:41:09 »

its only a matter of time. but at the rate fuel prices are rising there prob wont b many cars on the road in a few years, most people will be on pubic transport.
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« Reply #9 on: 05 July 2008, 09:39:39 »

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I can remember a few years ago i sat on the M4 in a traffic holdup for 2 hours......not going anywhere.......it was 30C outside and my 735i bmw sat idling.......keeping me cool with the climate......i could see the muppets that turned their engines off.....hanging out the windows.......maybe thay didnt have aircon  :-/.....not me....i stayed nice and  8-)

must of used some juice.   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Didnt really matter in that thing.....it only did 15mpg at the best of times  ;D ;D
Thats why i got shot of it.......£70 of petrol every 3 days wasnt good  ;)
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Re: Just imagine...
« Reply #10 on: 05 July 2008, 10:43:51 »

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I can remember a few years ago i sat on the M4 in a traffic holdup for 2 hours......not going anywhere.......it was 30C outside and my 735i bmw sat idling.......keeping me cool with the climate......i could see the muppets that turned their engines off.....hanging out the windows.......maybe thay didnt have aircon  :-/.....not me....i stayed nice and  8-)

About 15 years ago, I was stuck for an hour on the A12 on a very hot summer day.  My non air-conditioned Granada decided it didn't like the weather and began to overheat.  Turning the engine off made it worse, 'cos there was no cooling fan, and, in any case, we kept edging forward, so I began to worry about the battery.  Ended up with the windows open and the heater going full blast.  

Very difficult to explain that to wife and three kids. :(  

Not a good day...
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