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Runway Enduros
« on: 07 April 2015, 09:39:58 »

I'm a bit disappointed that the Enduros on the rear of my TD Estate are shot after only 8k, considering I am not in the TB school of drivers. They've handled well, but a bit noisy, but I must now make a distress purchase before Thursday's MOT. >:(
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Re: Runway Enduros
« Reply #1 on: 07 April 2015, 09:45:25 »

Was the wear pattern even? They lasted OK on my car when I used them. Not spectacular, but given the price it made them reasonable value. Then again, I think those Enduros (914s?) got superceded, and I was warned off the next generation.
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Re: Runway Enduros
« Reply #2 on: 07 April 2015, 14:05:31 »

916 Enduros were bloody brilliant for what they cost, but the 926 Performance are mediocre by comparison... perfectly acceptable, just nothing special :(

The Mercedes was chewing through them every 7-8k miles as well if that's any consolation :-\
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Re: Runway Enduros
« Reply #3 on: 07 April 2015, 16:45:24 »

Yep, the wear was even across the rear tyres which (Ooops) I have replaced with 926's!, I'll let you know. On a different note, the OS front has worn on the inside of the tyre only, with no uneven wear on the NS. Car has good rear WB bushes and polys in the front. Clearly requires a geo setup, but any comments on the wear? :y
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Re: Runway Enduros
« Reply #4 on: 07 April 2015, 17:20:43 »

Might suggest a worn tre or lower ball joint... Prudent to go through the front end given it will need some degree of set up anyways... :y
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Re: Runway Enduros
« Reply #5 on: 07 April 2015, 19:17:11 »

Thks Al, New TRE's last year, new wishbones 12k ago, possibly a ball joint then. :-\
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Re: Runway Enduros
« Reply #6 on: 07 April 2015, 19:48:38 »

Tre ball joint would give play, which the driver would have to centre with the steering wheel. Or the car will vear off.

This means ball joint play affecting the toe setting would give equal wear on both front tyres. So not caused by a tor error.

Which means.... Camber. Either poor set up or a fault causing excess camber.
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Re: Runway Enduros
« Reply #7 on: 07 April 2015, 20:46:31 »

916 Enduros were bloody brilliant for what they cost, but the 926 Performance are mediocre by comparison... perfectly acceptable, just nothing special :(

The Mercedes was chewing through them every 7-8k miles as well if that's any consolation :-\

I have to say I'm not overly impressed with the 926 - just put a pair on the front of the 2.2 and it's made it a bit 'twitchy' again. I had only just sorted that on previouse tyres with new wishbones, drop links and setup >:(

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Re: Runway Enduros
« Reply #8 on: 07 April 2015, 21:02:05 »

Tre ball joint would give play, which the driver would have to centre with the steering wheel. Or the car will vear off.

This means ball joint play affecting the toe setting would give equal wear on both front tyres. So not caused by a tor error.

Which means.... Camber. Either poor set up or a fault causing excess camber.

 :y :y :y

Runs fairly true, maybe a slight lean the the left, but narrow country road camber could account for that. :-\
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Re: Runway Enduros
« Reply #9 on: 07 April 2015, 21:04:05 »

It just goes to show how fussy the Omega can be to both tyre design and geometry...
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Re: Runway Enduros
« Reply #10 on: 07 April 2015, 21:25:29 »

Indeed! I think I may need a second opinion!  :y
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Re: Runway Enduros
« Reply #11 on: 07 April 2015, 21:28:13 »

Tre ball joint would give play, which the driver would have to centre with the steering wheel. Or the car will vear off.

This means ball joint play affecting the toe setting would give equal wear on both front tyres. So not caused by a tor error.

Which means.... Camber. Either poor set up or a fault causing excess camber.

 :y :y :y

Runs fairly true, maybe a slight lean the the left, but narrow country road camber could account for that. :-\

Depends on the operator. Sometimes they add a bit of camber to the left side to counter the road crown. Which might explain it. Others prefer to reduce caster on the drivers side for similar reasons. I hate both these options personally as the car never runs true, even on the rare occasions that it actually runs on a flat piece of road.

Further, as the tyres then wear, oddly in your case, that can play havoc as well, and potentially cause a pull in its own right, as one tyre is then "geared" (like a cone) and wants to pull, while the other doesn't.

End of the day, ideally, you want the inner edge wear to be more than outside, BUT to be within limits by the time the tyre is worn out. ie, if the inner edge wear finishes the tyre with useable tread left in the centre then the camber is excessive for your driving as your not wanging round corners like the set up operator thinks you should be.... Or he's just made a bollards of it.

Basically, "some" inner edge wear should be evident by the time the tyre is shot. So it might be that the other more evenly worn side is too upright. (This doesn't apply to more "progressive" drivers as they'll wear both edges, leaving ALOT of centre tread still to use, although still want slightly more inner edge wear than the outside)
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Re: Runway Enduros
« Reply #12 on: 07 April 2015, 21:31:15 »

And to add, preferably imo, for both tyres to wear the same.
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Re: Runway Enduros
« Reply #13 on: 07 April 2015, 22:18:14 »

The NS front looks barely worn, as does 90% of the OS tread,I've put them on the back now, and will get a geo setup while the fronts are new. :y
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Re: Runway Enduros
« Reply #14 on: 07 April 2015, 23:44:58 »

Got Runway 926's on the Estate - no issues, runs true without wander.  Had full geo done a few months back (July last year)
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