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Category B bodyshell
« on: 06 July 2008, 11:01:55 »

DVLA blew my mind yesterday.  They said that a Cat B chassis/shell can be used to rebuild a car that is less than Cat B, and if passes inspection can be put back on the road!  :o

Before people get tetchy, the Cat B shell being considered is from a flood damaged car - not wrecked.  And no, it is not a miggy.
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Re: Category B bodyshell
« Reply #1 on: 06 July 2008, 11:17:29 »

please tell me you didnt buy that robin reliant shell we were talking about before??! ;D ;D
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« Reply #2 on: 06 July 2008, 11:18:58 »

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No, missed that discussion.
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« Reply #3 on: 06 July 2008, 11:25:04 »

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please tell me you didnt buy that robin reliant shell we were talking about before??! ;D ;D

It's a [size=14]RELIANT ROBIN![/size]  ::)
You don't drive an Omega Vauxhall do you!  ;)  ;)  ;)
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« Reply #4 on: 06 July 2008, 11:37:54 »

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It's a [size=14]RELIANT ROBIN![/size]  ::)
You don't drive an Omega Vauxhall do you!  ;)  ;)  ;)

not at the moment, its f***ed!! ;D
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« Reply #5 on: 06 July 2008, 11:44:05 »

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please tell me you didnt buy that robin reliant shell we were talking about before??! ;D ;D

It's a [size=14]RELIANT ROBIN![/size]  ::)
You don't drive an Omega Vauxhall do you!  ;)  ;)  ;)

not at the moment, its f***ed!! ;D
Fess up, what did you do?  :-? ;)
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Re: Category B bodyshell
« Reply #6 on: 06 July 2008, 11:57:54 »

it had been stood a few days while i was away, had a good long drive in it yesterday and it didnt feel too fantastic on gas, but no more than it had since it was converted, but while out on the A570 doing 60, it didnt want to behave and it felt unsafe, so i switched it to petrol and drove it to the place that did the conversion, 15 miles away, and on petrol it runs 100% fantastic

the guy attached his laptop, tweeked the mixture slightly but couldnt get it perfect, (idling erratically on gas) and re-did the auto calibration which still didnt help

he told me i might need new lambda sensors, they're throwing fault codes on gas and he thinks they're making the LPG ECU alter its settings to compensate, which is then making it run cack!, see http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1215268444

but also driving last night to my girlfriends i heard something dragging which i thought sounded like the exhaust brushing lightly against the road, however the middle and back are brand new, and i could find nothing hanging down, and nothing near the wheels or brakes that could be rubbing :(
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« Reply #7 on: 06 July 2008, 12:08:37 »

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it had been stood a few days while i was away, had a good long drive in it yesterday and it didnt feel too fantastic on gas, but no more than it had since it was converted, but while out on the A570 doing 60, it didnt want to behave and it felt unsafe, so i switched it to petrol and drove it to the place that did the conversion, 15 miles away, and on petrol it runs 100% fantastic

the guy attached his laptop, tweeked the mixture slightly but couldnt get it perfect, (idling erratically on gas) and re-did the auto calibration which still didnt help

he told me i might need new lambda sensors, they're throwing fault codes on gas and he thinks they're making the LPG ECU alter its settings to compensate, which is then making it run cack!, see http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1215268444

but also driving last night to my girlfriends i heard something dragging which i thought sounded like the exhaust brushing lightly against the road, however the middle and back are brand new, and i could find nothing hanging down, and nothing near the wheels or brakes that could be rubbing :(
Be VERY careful that it isn't the gas line drooping on the driveshaft!  Doubt that he ran it in the tunnel, but since it was one of the last things done to the car you want to be sure.

I don't have any experience with gas, but it's going to be difficult to diagnose something like lambda sensors if not doing it on petrol as well. Not saying it isn't them, but very hard to be sure.
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Re: Category B bodyshell
« Reply #8 on: 06 July 2008, 12:18:17 »

my thoughts exactly, i aint buying pattern lambdas, and for the sake of "seeing if its them" i'm not buying genuine at VX for over £200 when its probably not them at fault!!

if i jack the car up, should i be able to see the gas line and drive shaft?
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« Reply #9 on: 06 July 2008, 12:25:50 »

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my thoughts exactly, i aint buying pattern lambdas, and for the sake of "seeing if its them" i'm not buying genuine at VX for over £200 when its probably not them at fault!!

if i jack the car up, should i be able to see the gas line and drive shaft?
Gas line should be obvious even without jacking up if run outside tunnel.  Jacking up won't let you see around driveshaft safely unless quite high and held solidly on jackstands.
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« Reply #10 on: 06 July 2008, 12:29:29 »

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DVLA blew my mind yesterday.  They said that a Cat B chassis/shell can be used to rebuild a car that is less than Cat B, and if passes inspection can be put back on the road!  :o

Before people get tetchy, the Cat B shell being considered is from a flood damaged car - not wrecked.  And no, it is not a miggy.


Can you please explain to me what is a "Cat B" chassis/shell is Theolodian? :-/ :-/

I have heard this before but never really understood what it mean't. ;)
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« Reply #11 on: 06 July 2008, 12:37:35 »

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DVLA blew my mind yesterday.  They said that a Cat B chassis/shell can be used to rebuild a car that is less than Cat B, and if passes inspection can be put back on the road!  :o

Before people get tetchy, the Cat B shell being considered is from a flood damaged car - not wrecked.  And no, it is not a miggy.


Can you please explain to me what is a "Cat B" chassis/shell is Theolodian? :-/ :-/

I have heard this before but never really understood what it mean't. ;)
Cat is for category.  A,B,C,D are the different levels of accident damage.  A and B can not be repaired and put back on the road.  C is safe but not economical to repair (possibly including other costs like loan cars), D is anything else.

A is no usable parts, crush only.  B is strip usable parts and crush shell according to some, however the DVLA told me that even the chassis (bodyshell on modern cars) is a valid spare part if in good condition.  Flood damage cars are usually Cat B due to electrics, but shell is ok.
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« Reply #12 on: 06 July 2008, 12:42:35 »

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DVLA blew my mind yesterday.  They said that a Cat B chassis/shell can be used to rebuild a car that is less than Cat B, and if passes inspection can be put back on the road!  :o

Before people get tetchy, the Cat B shell being considered is from a flood damaged car - not wrecked.  And no, it is not a miggy.


Can you please explain to me what is a "Cat B" chassis/shell is Theolodian? :-/ :-/

I have heard this before but never really understood what it mean't. ;)
Cat is for category.  A,B,C,D are the different levels of accident damage.  A and B can not be repaired and put back on the road.  C is safe but not economical to repair (possibly including other costs like loan cars), D is anything else.

A is no usable parts, crush only.  B is strip usable parts and crush shell according to some, however the DVLA told me that even the chassis (bodyshell on modern cars) is a valid spare part if in good condition.  Flood damage cars are usually Cat B due to electrics, but shell is ok.

Thanks for that; now I fully understand! ;) :y :y :y
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« Reply #13 on: 06 July 2008, 12:52:13 »

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my thoughts exactly, i aint buying pattern lambdas, and for the sake of "seeing if its them" i'm not buying genuine at VX for over £200 when its probably not them at fault!!

if i jack the car up, should i be able to see the gas line and drive shaft?
Gas line should be obvious even without jacking up if run outside tunnel.  Jacking up won't let you see around driveshaft safely unless quite high and held solidly on jackstands.

couldnt see enough round drive shaft, couldnt find jack stands but its up on ramps, i found a copper pipe running from the vapouriser to the back of the car, it runs along the side of the car though, does that mean its not that that's rattling?

the new exhaust however has a slight leak of fluid (?) at one of the joins to the front section, and one of the joins to the back section, could this cause a rattle like the sound i described?
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« Reply #14 on: 06 July 2008, 12:57:30 »

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my thoughts exactly, i aint buying pattern lambdas, and for the sake of "seeing if its them" i'm not buying genuine at VX for over £200 when its probably not them at fault!!

if i jack the car up, should i be able to see the gas line and drive shaft?
Gas line should be obvious even without jacking up if run outside tunnel.  Jacking up won't let you see around driveshaft safely unless quite high and held solidly on jackstands.

couldnt see enough round drive shaft, couldnt find jack stands but its up on ramps, i found a copper pipe running from the vapouriser to the back of the car, it runs along the side of the car though, does that mean its not that that's rattling?

the new exhaust however has a slight leak of fluid (?) at one of the joins to the front section, and one of the joins to the back section, could this cause a rattle like the sound i described?
Bare copper?!  I thought they were insulated.  Other than that, you're getting beyond my expertise.  Just look/poke around.

My bad rattle was a broken rear spring, but that's pretty loud.
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