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[relluf]

I have found a 2.2cd for sale locally to me which might suit as a second car at the moment,
sounds ok its silver obviously! Seller says he has cert for lpg systm has owned for ten years ,I am ok with checking car itself over but know sweet FA about lpg !
So what am I looking for?
All input appreciated.
Cheers

[05omegav6]

Budget for a new tank as they're only certified for ten years from date of manufacture...

What system is it, ie Stag/Prins/BRC?

Worst case you might need a new tank, new plumbing, new injectors and a new vapouriser...

In all possibly £300 or so, but pretty much all diyable. You will need a new tank, even if the rest of tge system is sound... Allow for this when you haggle, but depending on size/shape new tanks needn't be that expensive.

Should switch to gas when warmed up, and check for misfires/hesitancy on gas as lpg is much more sensitive to ignition issues...

Otherwise all the usual Omega rules apply

[relluf]

Budget for a new tank as they're only certified for ten years from date of manufacture...

What system is it, ie Stag/Prins/BRC?

Worst case you might need a new tank, new plumbing, new injectors and a new vapouriser...

In all possibly £300 or so, but pretty much all diyable. You will need a new tank, even if the rest of tge system is sound... Allow for this when you haggle, but depending on size/shape new tanks needn't be that expensive.

Should switch to gas when warmed up, and check for misfires/hesitancy on gas as lpg is much more sensitive to ignition issues...

Otherwise all the usual Omega rules apply

Cheers Al
Thats the stuff I need to know , dont know which system yet but tanks behind seats and cars only done less than 60k!

[JamesV6CDX]

I may be wrong here, but is it not the case that, you just cannot GET new certification on a tank over ten years old.. if the tank in an existing setup is over ten years old, but the system was already certified before the tanks 10th birthday... it remains certified indefinitely beyond ten years, providing the setup is kept original?

[relluf]

I may be wrong here, but is it not the case that, you just cannot GET new certification on a tank over ten years old.. if the tank in an existing setup is over ten years old, but the system was already certified before the tanks 10th birthday... it remains certified indefinitely beyond ten years, providing the setup is kept original?

So do I read that as IF the system has been certified recently it may be ok for the foreseeable future?

[JamesV6CDX]

I may be wrong here, but is it not the case that, you just cannot GET new certification on a tank over ten years old.. if the tank in an existing setup is over ten years old, but the system was already certified before the tanks 10th birthday... it remains certified indefinitely beyond ten years, providing the setup is kept original?

So do I read that as IF the system has been certified recently it may be ok for the foreseeable future?

Double check it. I think for the purposes of legality, yes. But I must stress you need to confirm it, I'm only 90% or so sure.

The point remains however, like an MOT, certification does not always mean it's safe after the inspection... so even if it remains legal over the ten year period... I would recommend a thorough looking over, and leak test, to ensure all is still well

[relluf]

I may be wrong here, but is it not the case that, you just cannot GET new certification on a tank over ten years old.. if the tank in an existing setup is over ten years old, but the system was already certified before the tanks 10th birthday... it remains certified indefinitely beyond ten years, providing the setup is kept original?

So do I read that as IF the system has been certified recently it may be ok for the foreseeable future?

Double check it. I think for the purposes of legality, yes. But I must stress you need to confirm it, I'm only 90% or so sure.

The point remains however, like an MOT, certification does not always mean it's safe after the inspection... so even if it remains legal over the ten year period... I would recommend a thorough looking over, and leak test, to ensure all is still well

  Thanks ,point taken

[05omegav6]

It's Australian, but you get the point...

http://www.raa.com.au/motoring-and-road-safety/car-advice/converting-your-car-to-lpg

Getting the tank removed, inspected, re certified and refitted means it is probably significantly cheaper simply buy a new tank etc...

[zirk]

MOT Man is not interested in the LPG side of things unless you present the car to be tested on LPG rather than running on petrol.

Legally the LPG Cert is not a legal requirement, unless things have changed, and may or may not be asked for by the Insurance Co. Of course your safety of the LPG System needs to to come into to play at some point.

As for buying LPG cars etc, as Al says check the car runs and switches over to gas when warmed up, in the real world if its working as it should, you shoudn"t realy notice any difference between petrol and gas on a drive.

Ask the seller not to start tbe car prior to your inspection, ie a cold start, He should be happy to do this if the cad runs without issues.

[relluf]

Thanks for all your input chaps!!!

I am off to have a look at it after work today ,if it is still available that is.
Will let you know how we go on.

[driver115]

I`ve had a PRINS system in a 2.6 auto since 2004, and it has been a very reliable system which has not let me down. From what I understand, tank guarenteed for 10 years, other parts including vaporiser coming to the end of their useful life and so expect to replace them as and when necessary.Look under the vehicle along pipe runs for wear points/results of rusty clips etc.Yes, if the system is functioning normally, then from cold it should switch over to lpg automatically within 5 minutes of startup
Bills/receipts as proof of lpg specific service/maintenance in addition to usual proof of regular service/repairs

[relluf]

Well I bought it, a 2000my 2.2cd saloon with lpg in some silver or other!
Body work not to bad usual blister over nsr arch
tidy interior in cloth,bit grubby but no issues.
Starts and runs very well,feels very tight compared to my load lugger estate

70l tank in the boot(stako) switches over and runs fine regulater (Landi renzo) whoever they are, system fitted in 2004, got certificate to show,serviced last in 2010 (lpg) no idea when car was last done, but have all mot going back to 1999 when it was at 36k it has now only done 52k I don't really know if that's a good thing tho!!!
all for the princely sum of £400 and that with an april 2016 MOT.

Wish me luck

[05omegav6]

At that price you could afford to replace the lpg system complete, do all the usual Omega bits plus belt/Wp/etc and hopefully get several years easy cheap motoring

[chrisgixer]

Check the reg on the uklpg web site. See if it's cetified. Although the web site replaces the old certificate system.

Check it revs out and switches over to gas ok. Look, under the bonnet. If it looks tidy and sensibly installed, doesn't smell of gas, amd has a lead to access the software if it needs a tweak then no worries.

Prins and brc are very tight with their leads and software access though.

[relluf]

Check the reg on the uklpg web site. See if it's cetified. Although the web site replaces the old certificate system.

Check it revs out and switches over to gas ok. Look, under the bonnet. If it looks tidy and sensibly installed, doesn't smell of gas, amd has a lead to access the software if it needs a tweak then no worries.

Prins and brc are very tight with their leads and software access though.

Yes just been and done that and it is on the system,The whole install looks good to be honest,although I don't really understand it

How do I know if its switching properly?
the led switch is located just above handbrake(very neat) but you cannot see it while driving!
can someone please talk me thru in laymens terms the procedure for starting switching etc ie start in petrol then manually switch to gas or leave in lpg and it sorts itself out and switch to petrol when it runs out?
what kind of range should I be looking at for a 70l tank in a 2.2?
Sorry for appearing a bit thick!