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[chrisgixer]

Who are you, to decide the value of someone else's car?


....and who are you to post that you might think the car isn't worth x amount, on someone else's sale thread?


Serious question. ....?

[powerslinky]

Eh ?

[Broomies Mate]

I think constructive advice is acceptable.  General piss-taking is IMO is not.

That said, if the advert in question was written with an arrogant tone, and replies to asking it's age (quite important in a car sales advert) is retorted in a similarly arrogant fashion, free for all! 

Seriously - For Sale threads should be a no-go area for discussion, unless genuine questions about the vehicle are asked. 

[chrisgixer]

Eh ?

Let's say I'm selling my car for 3.5k and it will be in standard form. No gas. No Irmscher.

If you want those things on the car it will be 4.5k. That's what it's worth to me.

It's 03 125k on the clock, years ticket and tax.

And it's advertised on here. I'd guess that would be too expensive to some. Right?

[Broomies Mate]

Chris, we all know this is not the place to sell an Omega.... I've sold one, and bought two from the forum, but if I wanted to buy or sell a properly sorted one, I'd be looking elsewhere.

We know the inherant problems, we know what they are 'worth'.

To answer your question directly, the chances of you getting 4.5k for your car, in it's present condition would be very slim..... you know that, I know that, everyone who has bought and sold a few Omega's know that.

Just because it has that value to you, doesn't mean for a split-second that anyone else would value it as such.

Please don't take that as an insult!    Look what 4.5k would buy you nowadays! 

[chrisgixer]

Chris, we all know this is not the place to sell an Omega.... I've sold one, and bought two from the forum, but if I wanted to buy or sell a properly sorted one, I'd be looking elsewhere.

We know the inherant problems, we know what they are 'worth'.

To answer your question directly, the chances of you getting 4.5k for your car, in it's present condition would be very slim..... you know that, I know that, everyone who has bought and sold a few Omega's know that.

Just because it has that value to you, doesn't mean for a split-second that anyone else would value it as such.

Please don't take that as an insult!    Look what 4.5k would buy you nowadays! 

Not one word of that would be the slightest business of yours though. I would invite you to make a sensible offer, consider it and politely refuse.

That way, we either agree a sale, or we don't.


There nothing more to it than that.

Don't take it personally, but I dint give a shit about opinion. It either sells, or it doesn't.

Keep your opinion to yourself as it will damage the chance of a sale. If your selling a car and someone comes round to view it, you might be hacked off if another 15 people turned up spouting on that it "ain't worth that much" mate.

It's no business of yours, how much anyone advertises their car for.

[Broomies Mate]

It's funny, becaue as an Omega Community, pretty much every Omega offered on eBay, Gumtree et al are posted here for open criticism.

Now, I may be bit of a petrol head (with limited funds), but when I bought my first Omega, I trawled the likes of VxON and other Vauxhall forums to find out about that particular car and if it had been an 'owners' car.  Latter purchases led me to OOF, and as such (even though I'm Omega-less) I still hang around in a dust corner of the forum.

I appreciate what you are saying, and to a quite large degree, I agree.... however, that's up to the vendor and ultimately the potential purchaser to decide what is and what isn't to be taken in and acted upon.

There are a million cars for sale, a handful of which are Omega's.  Whilst doing a slight misjustice to the seller, all comments (positive or negative) are assisting the potential buyer.

There is always two sides to a coin.

[chrisgixer]

No, your devaluing the guys car. With no interest in buying.


Millions of others sales have out nout do with it. And the same goes for the eBay threads. It's just a public slagging. Although a lot more removed, an omega seller is still likely to see it here, as is a buyer.

Genuine interest questions are useful like mileage and age, mot etc. so is a reason for admin not to lock, but that is not the point here.

Who are you, to decide the value of someone else's car? It's their car, they set the value at which they sell. Ypu set the values at which you buy, or not.

On balance at this rate there's a good chance of locking sale ads I would guess.


How does that help anyone?

[Broomies Mate]

For the record, my ONLY input in that thread was asking the age of the vehicle.  I could have said a lot more, becuase the advert sounded arrogant and unpleasant.  I am in the market for an Omega, and I want to pay top dollar for a top dollar car..... think RB territory.  I was only half tampted anyway, as it's got a bloody big box on the back, and all Omega's should be saloon.

I digress.

You have asked for serious and honest answers in THIS thread, and I have given mine.  I'll now jump off the soap-box as I'm sure early Sunday risers will be here to add their opinions too. 

[chrisgixer]

Your also, arguably, de valuing your own omega, and everyone else's in the process.


In this hypothetical situation, obviously.

[05omegav6]

Wrt ebay adverts, some are so misleading that to not comment on them would be unfair to potential buyers, especially as anyone looking for a keeper would most likely swing by here...

That ultra rare Star Silver 2.6 Auto MV6 being a case in point... Hopefully somebody bought it, and hopefully they had their eyes open when they did so...

But the point is a valid one... Perhaps for sale ads should only be able to be edited by the Op or admins, with them automatically being locked after 24 hours... That way any questions etc could be asked via pm and if sold, then a quick pm to an Admin would see the thread nuked

[Darth Loo-knee]

As to your question. In my opinion I agree with you.
However a few years ago the same thing was happening,  so a thread was posted (need to find it out) about keeping the Cars for Sale Area of the Forum just that, with only genuine questions about the Car to be posted in the Sellers thread. If for whatever reason people wanted to make comments about cars in the For Sale Area then simply open a thread in General Chat.
It helped the Admin to keep the area Clean and Tidy and for a Buyer not to read through a load of comments about something they maybe interested in.

[Darth Loo-knee]

There you go Gixer... don't ever say I don't do anything for ya 

This is a Section from The Forum Guidlines, which is found in the Welcome Area

Posting in For Sale sections

Absolutely no links to your Ebay auctions, or Ebay auction numbers, or direct or indirect links to other places where it is advertised.

No posting for sale items in the 'wrong' areas to get around the postcount limits.

Currently you need to be an Intermediate Member (over 250 posts) to advertise your Omega or your Omega parts.

If you are a buyer, please ensure you are happy and confident with the seller before parting with money.

Sellers must provide an approximate price in their description. This is NOT an auction site, and certainly not a blind bid selling arena.

The For Sale sections are simply for that purpose.  Confine posts in the thread to relevant and pertinant comments, please, such as to confirm mileage, trim, history and the like. 

If you have a variety of parts to sell - Please list them all in one thread.  Common sense and consideration for others is requested so that you do not hog the first couple of pages all to yourself and relegate the competition down the page listing.

If you are selling something quite rare/pricey/unique such as a full telematics setup, a CID, parking sensors, body kit, etc then by all means list in a separate post.  Leather interiors, Bose shelves, panels etc etc are not 'rare' so confine them to your main post please.

Posts deemed not to meeting these criteria will be subject to deletion.

If you have a comment to make such as I would have bought it if it was blue/an estate/manual/satnav/friday/whatever, then do so by PM, NOT on the thread. 

If you think the for sale ad is worthy of further discussion with the forum as a whole (if its a hound of a car or something very rare you want to share) then treat the sales thread like an E-Bay ad, Dealer add or a post it note in the local newsagents - give a discussion link in the general discussion area and DO NOT add such discussion to the sales thread itself.  If the seller cannot or will not give a good description of their product, its their loss

[Darth Loo-knee]

Just to add.... It is hardwork having to Police the Forum.. takes time and effort given freely for any of them...

My post count should be safe for a while. Right Jammie zip yourself up quick before anyone see's 

[TheBoy]

Right Jammie zip yourself up quick before anyone see's 

I didn't feel a thing, sure you're finished?