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[Terbs]

I have to say I personally am disappointed with some comments made about cars for sale, whether on here or by linking. Because a car is a certain specification or colour, the car is what it is and that's that. Criticism without evidence seems to be rife at the moment. I have said this before and I stand by my comments. Everyone sees something different, and my feelings are that the price you ask for your car is your business and yours alone. Others may not agree with your price, but at the end of the day,they don't have to buy it. Everyone has a price or limit to spend.
I'll be honest, I would have paid more for my car, but that is my choice and mine alone.
Again critising before even seeing the car is not on in my opinion.
Sorry to sound off, but events of late have touched a spot

[tigers_gonads]

I have to say I personally am disappointed with some comments made about cars for sale, whether on here or by linking. Because a car is a certain specification or colour, the car is what it is and that's that. Criticism without evidence seems to be rife at the moment. I have said this before and I stand by my comments. Everyone sees something different, and my feelings are that the price you ask for your car is your business and yours alone. Others may not agree with your price, but at the end of the day,they don't have to buy it. Everyone has a price or limit to spend.
I'll be honest, I would have paid more for my car, but that is my choice and mine alone.
Again critising before even seeing the car is not on in my opinion.
Sorry to sound off, but events of late have touched a spot

Spot on that 

[The Sheriff]

The big problem, as I see it, is this. Seller asks for £X. A potential buyer likes the car and is willing to pay £X but, by the time people have finished putting their tuppence worth in, buyer feels a bit silly and either pulls out of the sale or doesn't even bother to contact the seller.
When I bought my daewoo, and my snotmobile, I posted up the pics and details beforehand. I was, of course, greeted with howls of derision. This made not a jot of different to me, because I am, in the main, a person who makes his own decisions and then stands or falls by them. But I can see it would make a big difference to some folk.

If an eBay link is posted up and people genuinely want to save the potential buyer from himself, then that's fair enough. No one wants to see anyone taken for a mug. But when a fellow member puts his omega up for sale, then questions can be asked of him regarding things like mileage, service history etc., but unhelpful, pointless comments should be frowned upon. It can only upset the seller and, possibly, a potential buyer.
We all know our omegas, or should do by now, so, unless a potential buyer asks you by pm for your opinion........shut it.

[Rods2]

We have free speech in this country and if something is in the public domain than anybody can make a comment. What is obviously not acceptable are libelous comments and the person who has been libeled should ask for any comments of this nature to be corrected or withdrawn, either directly or through an admin.

At the end of the day buying and selling cars is a market and a deal is done, once the buyer and seller reach a price that is acceptable to both of them. If I claim a clapped out shed of an Omega is worth £20k as ones is this 'condition' are as rare as hens teeth and the potential buyer list the 101 faults and offers 50p it is unlikely we are going to find common ground for a deal.

We have seen a certain dealer offer Omegas well above normal prices, but they have been exceptionally good cars, immaculately presented and there must be a market for this as they seem to sell.

With cars offered on Ebay etc, we do seem to get many talk them down with comments along the line of; this wrong / that wrong, particularly on a car's specification, where all too often they are showing their ignorance, which is then corrected by a more knowledgeable member. However, it does tend to create a bad tone for the thread and leave a bad taste in some members mouths. IMO what would be more constructive would be to enquire if this or that was standard or an option or had it been fitted at a later date.

[The Sheriff]

We have free speech in this country and if something is in the public domain than anybody can make a comment. What is obviously not acceptable are libelous comments and the person who has been libeled should ask for any comments of this nature to be corrected or withdrawn, either directly or through an admin.

At the end of the day buying and selling cars is a market and a deal is done, once the buyer and seller reach a price that is acceptable to both of them. If I claim a clapped out shed of an Omega is worth £20k as ones is this 'condition' are as rare as hens teeth and the potential buyer list the 101 faults and offers 50p it is unlikely we are going to find common ground for a deal.

We have seen a certain dealer offer Omegas well above normal prices, but they have been exceptionally good cars, immaculately presented and there must be a market for this as they seem to sell.

With cars offered on Ebay etc, we do seem to get many talk them down with comments along the line of; this wrong / that wrong, particularly on a car's specification, where all too often they are showing their ignorance, which is then corrected by a more knowledgeable member. However, it does tend to create a bad tone for the thread and leave a bad taste in some members mouths. IMO what would be more constructive would be to enquire if this or that was standard or an option or had it been fitted at a later date.

Newbies should have nothing to say on the subject.

[Rods2]

We have free speech in this country and if something is in the public domain than anybody can make a comment. What is obviously not acceptable are libelous comments and the person who has been libeled should ask for any comments of this nature to be corrected or withdrawn, either directly or through an admin.

At the end of the day buying and selling cars is a market and a deal is done, once the buyer and seller reach a price that is acceptable to both of them. If I claim a clapped out shed of an Omega is worth £20k as ones is this 'condition' are as rare as hens teeth and the potential buyer list the 101 faults and offers 50p it is unlikely we are going to find common ground for a deal.

We have seen a certain dealer offer Omegas well above normal prices, but they have been exceptionally good cars, immaculately presented and there must be a market for this as they seem to sell.

With cars offered on Ebay etc, we do seem to get many talk them down with comments along the line of; this wrong / that wrong, particularly on a car's specification, where all too often they are showing their ignorance, which is then corrected by a more knowledgeable member. However, it does tend to create a bad tone for the thread and leave a bad taste in some members mouths. IMO what would be more constructive would be to enquire if this or that was standard or an option or had it been fitted at a later date.

Newbies should have nothing to say on the subject.

Say's he who is 500 posts overdue throwing his toys out and becoming one again.

[The Sheriff]

Upstart! 

[05omegav6]

At what point does an ad become misleading?
Is it when the seller bangs on about a clearly standard car having nappa leather?
Or claiming it has full service history with nothing but spurious stamps in the service book and not a single receipt? 
Or when the mileages of those spurious services simply doesn't ad up?
Or when the dealer said to have serviced the car has no record of ever seeing it?

Take Brians' old car... I drove that less than a fortnight before he sold it, and the only thing wrong with it was that it needed a new condesor and an aircon regas iirc... certainly didn't need a new diff, yet a month later (or less) there it was, back on ebay with a seller claiming x,y and z... all of which was utter rubbish... another seller later and the decription is marginally more accurate... but why fit reversing sensors (badly) but not address the one thing that's still broken...

[Rods2]

Upstart! 

 

[ted_one]

I would certainly not sell my cars on here,reason....because there's a whole world of sucker's out there on EGay....me being one of them. Oh! and also you lot are all tight arses with deep pockets and short arms,would be another reason

[chrisgixer]

Right Jammie zip yourself up quick before anyone see's 

I didn't feel a thing, sure you're finished?

I knew it, you admin lot

[VXL V6]

At what point does an ad become misleading?
Is it when the seller bangs on about a clearly standard car having nappa leather?
Or claiming it has full service history with nothing but spurious stamps in the service book and not a single receipt? 
Or when the mileages of those spurious services simply doesn't ad up?
Or when the dealer said to have serviced the car has no record of ever seeing it?

Take Brians' old car... I drove that less than a fortnight before he sold it, and the only thing wrong with it was that it needed a new condesor and an aircon regas iirc... certainly didn't need a new diff, yet a month later (or less) there it was, back on ebay with a seller claiming x,y and z... all of which was utter rubbish... another seller later and the decription is marginally more accurate... but why fit reversing sensors (badly) but not address the one thing that's still broken...

In a sellers (or rather dealers) eyes, velour is plush velour, motorway miles equals Very leggy on the miles, Just arrived transpires it still has the auction barcode stuck to the windscreen and owned by an enthusiast should beg the question what's so wrong with it that the enthusiast wanted to get rid?

Nowt so strange as folk, buy a car, watch oil dripping underneath then go to Halfords and buy some LED sidelights 

[X30XE]

Your also, arguably, de valuing your own omega, and everyone else's in the process.


In this hypothetical situation, obviously.

Exactly. The main obstacle to Omega prices exceeding £2k is this forum.  This is supposed to be an enthusiasts forum.  If you go on a BMW enthusiasts forum for instance you won't get this attitude that is prevalent here of "that's worth naff all m8 lol"   

Especially when the vendor of said hypothetical vehicle has a low mileage car in way above average condition with most of the consumable parts replaced in the last year! 

[X30XE]

That said, if the advert in question was written with an arrogant tone, and replies to asking it's age (quite important in a car sales advert) is retorted in a similarly arrogant fashion, free for all! 

Had you not asked in a thoroughly condescending fashion...

Any idea how old it is, Flower?  That's kinda important dontchafink?

...you would have received a much less "arrogant" retort my friend, as it was a sensible question in principal. 

Personally the age would be of no relevance to me as it's clearly 2000 - 2003, and condition is key to the value rather than age. But I appreciate other opinions may vary.     

[05omegav6]

Arguably the age does have a bearing... Features fitted varied widely between 2000 and 2003... So although the car is clearly a facelift... When it left the factory makes a difference

Less so with the estates, but even so...