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[mka306]

When I first spotted the Volvo my first thought was it's a second hand dealers until I realised it was a main dealer so assumed it was there second hand lot, plus I did wonder why they had the vehicles stored on the top floor, not a great idea even if its designed for it.

Multi-storey car parks seem to get away with it.

Good point, but the entire structure of a multi-story car park is solid front top to bottom and all sides whereas the Audi dealer looks like a big tin hut

[Mr Gav]

I would assume that it was designed for it, hard to believe they`d get the cars up there if it wasn`t 

I bet the structural engineer has got some explaining to do 

[05omegav6]

The architect behind the newish carpark at Gatwick North Terminal must be struggling to sleep too... Been open barely five years and already been condemned

[mka306]

The architect behind the newish carpark at Gatwick North Terminal must be struggling to sleep too... Been open barely five years and already been condemned

And that's a structure that's designed for the sole purpose of taking heavy weight, I wonder how much money went down the drain on that one

[05omegav6]

Will find out when they demolish and rebuild it

That said they can use the rubble as hardcore for the new Runway

[mka306]

Will find out when they demolish and rebuild it

That said they can use the rubble as hardcore for the new Runway

 

[Mr Gav]

The architect behind the newish carpark at Gatwick North Terminal must be struggling to sleep too... Been open barely five years and already been condemned

The architect will sleep  ok as the structural engineer does all the calculations, if something fails structurally then it's down to him not the architect.

[05omegav6]

True enough, but the structural engineer is ultimately governed/restricted by the architects pretty pictures...

[Sir Tigger KC]

True enough, but the structural engineer is ultimately governed/restricted by the architects pretty pictures...

Not really because the structural engineer should be able to go back to the architect and tell him that his pretty pictures don't work in reality. 

[Kevin Wood]

True enough, but the structural engineer is ultimately governed/restricted by the architects pretty pictures...

Not really because the structural engineer should be able to go back to the architect and tell him that his pretty pictures don't work in reality. 

Yes, exactly. Ultimate responsibility for the structural integrity of the building rests with the structural engineer. If he's not happy, bricks don't get laid. Of course, it could be that some bright spark of a used car salesman was responsible for turning the first floor into a car park, and he didn't even consider the structural implications.

[Marks DTM Calib]

Structural engineer wont be to concerned, most issues are not in the calcs (which have to be checked and signed off by a third party) but the quality of workmanship.....

[Mr Gav]

Anything that has structural integrity will have 'to SE specifications' on the drawing so if a contractor wants to use an alternative then it has to be equivalent and approved and that applies to everything like lintels and ties, stud work etc. When it comes to floors and steel then you have to go with what the SE has specified and I can't see any main contractor signing off non spec work. The last job I was on the plasterboard contractor got booted off site for using non approved boards.