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Re: What about the 'other belt'?
« Reply #45 on: 07 June 2015, 15:19:08 »

I change aux belts when they visually start to crack badly on the ribbed side (smooth side will always look good). I get my belts from wherever is convenient (usually GM, as they deliver it to my door, saves me going into Banbury). Also GM ones are always the right length, someof the Conti lookup tables are wrong, and provide a belt 10mm too short, straining tensioner.

I change tensioner pulley when its bearings sound rough (if you catch it quick enough, regreasing may be an option). I get my pulleys from GM. If your parts dept are shit, they will claim you have to buy whole tensioner, because EPC isn't that good.



Indeed. Much like the check step bush, epc only gives the entire mechanism, rather than the much cheaper part that's actually at fault. Like the pulley in this case.


Option, remind me, why aren't you on Tc? No dealer near?

That should say Opti. Question for Opti....?
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Re: What about the 'other belt'?
« Reply #46 on: 07 June 2015, 15:44:55 »

I change aux belts when they visually start to crack badly on the ribbed side (smooth side will always look good). I get my belts from wherever is convenient (usually GM, as they deliver it to my door, saves me going into Banbury). Also GM ones are always the right length, someof the Conti lookup tables are wrong, and provide a belt 10mm too short, straining tensioner.

I change tensioner pulley when its bearings sound rough (if you catch it quick enough, regreasing may be an option). I get my pulleys from GM. If your parts dept are shit, they will claim you have to buy whole tensioner, because EPC isn't that good.


Maybe I should go the genuine GM route then. I suppose they cost more than £14 though.

I can't find anywhere that sells the pulley separate from the tensioner.

Egay is your friend , loads on there and more on the factor sites . Or stealers for a gold plated one  ;D
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Re: What about the 'other belt'?
« Reply #47 on: 07 June 2015, 16:52:49 »

I change aux belts when they visually start to crack badly on the ribbed side (smooth side will always look good). I get my belts from wherever is convenient (usually GM, as they deliver it to my door, saves me going into Banbury). Also GM ones are always the right length, someof the Conti lookup tables are wrong, and provide a belt 10mm too short, straining tensioner.

I change tensioner pulley when its bearings sound rough (if you catch it quick enough, regreasing may be an option). I get my pulleys from GM. If your parts dept are shit, they will claim you have to buy whole tensioner, because EPC isn't that good.


Maybe I should go the genuine GM route then. I suppose they cost more than £14 though.

I can't find anywhere that sells the pulley separate from the tensioner.


Try here:  [size=78%]http://www.vauxhall-car-parts.co.uk/acatalog/Omega_Drive_Belts.html[/size] 


Scrolling down you will find the belt you need for £14, a complete tensioner assembly for £38.45(which is damn cheap if you ask me) and just the pulley for £8.40. Of course, you won't get bent over the counter at your local dealer if you buy these, but then you won't need any extra lube and be walking funny afterwards, either


Multi-rib belts are part of an industrial system, where you buy parts according to their dimensions rather than it being fitted to a SUHONKAWACEDES Thingy-Do-Dah. Buying them from a motor-factor is just getting someone else to match the dimensions with the manufacturer's part nos.
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Re: What about the 'other belt'?
« Reply #48 on: 07 June 2015, 17:13:11 »

If you buy the SKF Aux kit you will get Aux belt tensioner, aux belt tensioner pulley, Water pump and aux belt in one box. I just get Daz to do both the SKF Cambelt and Auxbelt kits on my 2.6 every year (car does approx. 40K a year) and every four years on the 3.2 (Car won't have done 40K but the time period has been met).

I usually keep the belt I've removed in with the spare wheel along with the just removed pulley in the spare wheel well.

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Re: What about the 'other belt'?
« Reply #49 on: 07 June 2015, 17:35:11 »

I change aux belts when they visually start to crack badly on the ribbed side (smooth side will always look good). I get my belts from wherever is convenient (usually GM, as they deliver it to my door, saves me going into Banbury). Also GM ones are always the right length, someof the Conti lookup tables are wrong, and provide a belt 10mm too short, straining tensioner.

I change tensioner pulley when its bearings sound rough (if you catch it quick enough, regreasing may be an option). I get my pulleys from GM. If your parts dept are shit, they will claim you have to buy whole tensioner, because EPC isn't that good.


Maybe I should go the genuine GM route then. I suppose they cost more than £14 though.

I can't find anywhere that sells the pulley separate from the tensioner.


Try here:  [size=78%]http://www.vauxhall-car-parts.co.uk/acatalog/Omega_Drive_Belts.html[/size] 


Scrolling down you will find the belt you need for £14, a complete tensioner assembly for £38.45(which is damn cheap if you ask me) and just the pulley for £8.40. Of course, you won't get bent over the counter at your local dealer if you buy these, but then you won't need any extra lube and be walking funny afterwards, either


Multi-rib belts are part of an industrial system, where you buy parts according to their dimensions rather than it being fitted to a SUHONKAWACEDES Thingy-Do-Dah. Buying them from a motor-factor is just getting someone else to match the dimensions with the manufacturer's part nos.

Just so people are aware....

I can't speak for those parts linked to, but I can speak from experience of the parts on this page
http://www.vauxhall-car-parts.co.uk/acatalog/VAUXHALL_STEERING_ARM_-_9195731N.html
From the same site. Some of the utter trash taken off people's cars on my drive way has come from there, with a life time of weeks not even months.

Not a single manufacturers name in site, on the pages I saw, although obviously I haven't looked at every page, I would ask people to consider what's being sold here if the manufacturer won't add their name to their own product.

Sorry Nick but I'm surprised tbh. But if you do KNOW those parts life span then fair enough.

Personally I'd much rather pay the £11 Tc pulley price.
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Re: What about the 'other belt'?
« Reply #50 on: 07 June 2015, 19:47:59 »

more than happy to be guinea pig on the drive belt and pulley. Perhaps add results to your gen. dis. Thread re parts, Chris?
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Re: What about the 'other belt'?
« Reply #51 on: 07 June 2015, 19:51:37 »

I change aux belts when they visually start to crack badly on the ribbed side (smooth side will always look good). I get my belts from wherever is convenient (usually GM, as they deliver it to my door, saves me going into Banbury). Also GM ones are always the right length, someof the Conti lookup tables are wrong, and provide a belt 10mm too short, straining tensioner.

I change tensioner pulley when its bearings sound rough (if you catch it quick enough, regreasing may be an option). I get my pulleys from GM. If your parts dept are shit, they will claim you have to buy whole tensioner, because EPC isn't that good.


Maybe I should go the genuine GM route then. I suppose they cost more than £14 though.

I can't find anywhere that sells the pulley separate from the tensioner.


Try here:  [size=78%]http://www.vauxhall-car-parts.co.uk/acatalog/Omega_Drive_Belts.html[/size] 


Scrolling down you will find the belt you need for £14, a complete tensioner assembly for £38.45(which is damn cheap if you ask me) and just the pulley for £8.40. Of course, you won't get bent over the counter at your local dealer if you buy these, but then you won't need any extra lube and be walking funny afterwards, either


Multi-rib belts are part of an industrial system, where you buy parts according to their dimensions rather than it being fitted to a SUHONKAWACEDES Thingy-Do-Dah. Buying them from a motor-factor is just getting someone else to match the dimensions with the manufacturer's part nos.

Just so people are aware....

I can't speak for those parts linked to, but I can speak from experience of the parts on this page
http://www.vauxhall-car-parts.co.uk/acatalog/VAUXHALL_STEERING_ARM_-_9195731N.html
From the same site. Some of the utter trash taken off people's cars on my drive way has come from there, with a life time of weeks not even months.

Not a single manufacturers name in site, on the pages I saw, although obviously I haven't looked at every page, I would ask people to consider what's being sold here if the manufacturer won't add their name to their own product.

Sorry Nick but I'm surprised tbh. But if you do KNOW those parts life span then fair enough.

Personally I'd much rather pay the £11 Tc pulley price.

All genuine GM was the impression I was given.
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Re: What about the 'other belt'?
« Reply #52 on: 07 June 2015, 19:52:57 »

Why though? It's for a Vauxhall. Nothing to say it's made by Vauxhall.


Plus there is no way on gods green earth that idler is GM Opti.  ....seriously?
« Last Edit: 07 June 2015, 19:54:29 by chrisgixer »
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Re: What about the 'other belt'?
« Reply #54 on: 07 June 2015, 20:33:00 »

I change aux belts when they visually start to crack badly on the ribbed side (smooth side will always look good). I get my belts from wherever is convenient (usually GM, as they deliver it to my door, saves me going into Banbury). Also GM ones are always the right length, someof the Conti lookup tables are wrong, and provide a belt 10mm too short, straining tensioner.

I change tensioner pulley when its bearings sound rough (if you catch it quick enough, regreasing may be an option). I get my pulleys from GM. If your parts dept are shit, they will claim you have to buy whole tensioner, because EPC isn't that good.


Maybe I should go the genuine GM route then. I suppose they cost more than £14 though.

I can't find anywhere that sells the pulley separate from the tensioner.


Try here:  [size=78%]http://www.vauxhall-car-parts.co.uk/acatalog/Omega_Drive_Belts.html[/size] 


Scrolling down you will find the belt you need for £14, a complete tensioner assembly for £38.45(which is damn cheap if you ask me) and just the pulley for £8.40. Of course, you won't get bent over the counter at your local dealer if you buy these, but then you won't need any extra lube and be walking funny afterwards, either


Multi-rib belts are part of an industrial system, where you buy parts according to their dimensions rather than it being fitted to a SUHONKAWACEDES Thingy-Do-Dah. Buying them from a motor-factor is just getting someone else to match the dimensions with the manufacturer's part nos.

Just so people are aware....

I can't speak for those parts linked to, but I can speak from experience of the parts on this page
http://www.vauxhall-car-parts.co.uk/acatalog/VAUXHALL_STEERING_ARM_-_9195731N.html
From the same site. Some of the utter trash taken off people's cars on my drive way has come from there, with a life time of weeks not even months.

Not a single manufacturers name in site, on the pages I saw, although obviously I haven't looked at every page, I would ask people to consider what's being sold here if the manufacturer won't add their name to their own product.

Sorry Nick but I'm surprised tbh. But if you do KNOW those parts life span then fair enough.

Personally I'd much rather pay the £11 Tc pulley price.

All genuine GM was the impression I was given.
The clue is the N at the end of the part number... It is shorthand for:

NEVER HAVING BEEN ANYWHERE NEAR A GENUINE VAUXHALL PART

It is in their small print... Also has the side effect of making their cheap fake parts actually seem quite expensive compared to genuine parts ::)
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Re: What about the 'other belt'?
« Reply #55 on: 08 June 2015, 13:27:35 »

Called Vx this morning. They want £33-summat plus vat for just the pulley. ''What's that come to with TC discount, please''....''oh yes we'll get you a bit of a discount on that sir''.......................I didn't even bother getting a quote for the belt.

Luckily ive found a spare tensioner in the garage with pulley. ill regrease and pop that on.

simply put I refuse to pay that.

belt ordered from VCP. As said ill keep a note of how long it lasts and let you know, chris. if interested for your thread.
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Re: What about the 'other belt'?
« Reply #56 on: 08 June 2015, 13:34:58 »

Actually, Mr The Bear, the belt wasn't so bad price. Mine was £26 with TC, which is about what I'd pay from a local motorfactors. Admittedly that's not as cheap as a cheap online supplier, but when I was asking about it, I had that many people on here saying they'd ordered the 'right' drive belts, they'd arrived wrong/too short etc, and ended up just going to Vx and getting the right one, saving the hassle, I opted for GM.

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Re: What about the 'other belt'?
« Reply #57 on: 08 June 2015, 16:41:28 »

Actually, Mr The Bear, the belt wasn't so bad price. Mine was £26 with TC, which is about what I'd pay from a local motorfactors. Admittedly that's not as cheap as a cheap online supplier, but when I was asking about it, I had that many people on here saying they'd ordered the 'right' drive belts, they'd arrived wrong/too short etc, and ended up just going to Vx and getting the right one, saving the hassle, I opted for GM.

Vx dealer has just quoted £44 for the belt and £37 for the pulley (minus the tensioner)

Do Vauxhall have a price list or do they make it up as they go along?
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Re: What about the 'other belt'?
« Reply #58 on: 08 June 2015, 16:53:31 »


Vx dealer has just quoted £44 for the belt and £37 for the pulley (minus the tensioner)

Do Vauxhall have a price list or do they make it up as they go along?

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Re: What about the 'other belt'?
« Reply #59 on: 08 June 2015, 17:10:13 »

I did warn you!

3 to 4 times the price just for a Vx sticker on the packaging that you will put straight in the bin seems mental to me. And you have to choose your dealer carefully if you expect competence and good service as well.
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