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Fuel filter change nightmare - help!
« on: 12 June 2015, 21:24:03 »

Thought I'd change the fuel filter on the MV6 - and its doing its best impression of a violent incontinent. Does anyone have a diagram of the O rings and how they sit in the fuel pipe? Certainly one of them has split... Are they a dealer part or can I get a generic set? :D

If the O ring isn't the problem, how far back does the fuel pipe go if it needs replacing? Its pouring out of the end toward the front of the car...
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Re: Fuel filter change nightmare - help!
« Reply #1 on: 12 June 2015, 21:28:19 »

Thought I'd change the fuel filter on the MV6 - and its doing its best impression of a violent incontinent. Does anyone have a diagram of the O rings and how they sit in the fuel pipe? Certainly one of them has split... Are they a dealer part or can I get a generic set? :D

If the O ring isn't the problem, how far back does the fuel pipe go if it needs replacing? Its pouring out of the end toward the front of the car...
Hmmmm....this is your big chance of an insurance claim  :y
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Re: Fuel filter change nightmare - help!
« Reply #2 on: 13 June 2015, 07:22:56 »

The special clips (they are not O rings) are available from Vx dealers, some chuck them in free with new filters, some charge pence for them. Getting the old filter off is always a challenge, can involve small screwdrivers, and if you are unliucky you can split the hose end connector, then you have a problem. My solution is to push the split hose connector on to the new filter plus new plastic seal, then put a cable tie around the split to secure it. I welcome other members' techniques for getting off old filters.
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Re: Fuel filter change nightmare - help!
« Reply #3 on: 13 June 2015, 07:26:58 »

The last time I changed my fuel filter I sadly broke the 'quick release' clip on the line.

I shit myself thinking I'd broke it but it was an easy fix. . . 10mm fuel line over the broken line. Fuel line clamp. Same on the filter end. Just make sure it's all the way over the filters pipe.
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Re: Fuel filter change nightmare - help!
« Reply #4 on: 13 June 2015, 07:43:10 »

Are the filter clips new and fitted correctly?

Clips should be fitted to the filter and the filter then plugged in until it clicks... if it subsequently leaks then the clips are out of position or the pipe couplings are shagged :-\

Can be fiddly as access is a bit pants, especially on the estate...

Failing that... buy this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ISO7840-A1-MARINE-Grade-Rubber-Fuel-Hose-Petrol-Diesel-Type-7480-ISO-Breather-/250912389358

And eight of these:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JCS-Hi-Grip-Marine-Grade-Stainless-Steel-Hose-Clips-Clamps-Silicone-Choose-Size-/221015840599?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=520085768561&hash=item3375921757

Fit a four inch section on each end of the filter and secure with two clips each end, (one either side of the locking ring). Cut the fuel lines as close to the filter connections as possible and insert the fuel pipe into the hose... at least two inches. Again secure with two clips on each pipe :y
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Re: Fuel filter change nightmare - help!
« Reply #5 on: 13 June 2015, 09:26:12 »

I did use the same technique as I used on Zeke, of a couple of small screwdrivers to release the clips - when I removed the old filter there was a yellow O ring, a plastic ring approx 1mm thick, and a brown O ring still on the end of them. New filter came with new clips - when I fit either old or new there's approx 3mm play in the female end*. Guess that means the clip is FUBAR...

For the sake of simplicity I shall go with Harris's plan, it should make things easier in the future too.

Thanks so much chaps! :D
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Re: Fuel filter change nightmare - help!
« Reply #6 on: 13 June 2015, 09:35:38 »

you can buy the proper filter clip removal tool that does make things a lot easier....laser 4505...from memory but sealey and j,s,products among many tool suppliers do them..priced around £15..so cheap as well. :y :)
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Re: Fuel filter change nightmare - help!
« Reply #7 on: 16 June 2015, 08:50:58 »

It's a mystery to me why Opel changed from the simple system on the Senator with 2 hose clips to this 'clever' click on attachment on the Omega which makes servicing tricky. Does anyone like it?
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Re: Fuel filter change nightmare - help!
« Reply #8 on: 16 June 2015, 09:11:49 »

It's a mystery to me why Opel changed from the simple system on the Senator with 2 hose clips to this 'clever' click on attachment on the Omega which makes servicing tricky. Does anyone like it?
On the production line it takes a moment to clip the later pipe to the fuel filter whereas hose clamps take significantly longer.
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Re: Fuel filter change nightmare - help!
« Reply #9 on: 16 June 2015, 09:17:29 »

you can buy the proper filter clip removal tool that does make things a lot easier....laser 4505...from memory but sealey and j,s,products among many tool suppliers do them..priced around £15..so cheap as well. :y :)
Waste of money they were., Long needle nose pliers and a small screw driver.
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Re: Fuel filter change nightmare - help!
« Reply #10 on: 16 June 2015, 09:33:07 »

I think it falls into the category of 'on a brand new car, when you know what you're doing, and you have the right tool, it's easy' soon as you're working on a 15 year old one, and you don't actually know precisely how they come apart, and you're on your back, in dim light, trying to chip away years of road grime, they are a swine!

Basically it's two tabs that push in on a male fitting, whilst you simultaneously pull the fitting/s out from one another.

Oddly I found one of them Wilko/similar grips (like a really, really powerful clothes peg) are helpful to squeeze the tabs in as you then pull. (the connections on a brand new car plop out super easy, untouched for years they can be seized in, making it a two-man/four handed job)
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Re: Fuel filter change nightmare - help!
« Reply #11 on: 16 June 2015, 09:41:19 »

you can buy the proper filter clip removal tool that does make things a lot easier....laser 4505...from memory but sealey and j,s,products among many tool suppliers do them..priced around £15..so cheap as well. :y :)
Waste of money they were., Long needle nose pliers and a small screw driver.
I bought the tool, couldn't release the clips with it.  :( you need a broken clip in your hand to see how the blasted thing works  >:(
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Re: Fuel filter change nightmare - help!
« Reply #12 on: 16 June 2015, 09:58:26 »

Actually something I did, I hacksawed off one from a scrap car, and sat on the bench 'learning' how to do it. For the time it'd take to do that, I'd have a bash that way, get a spare, play about, then doing it under the car will be ten times easier, and ten times quicker (and theoretically ten times less damage)
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Re: Fuel filter change nightmare - help!
« Reply #13 on: 17 June 2015, 00:04:48 »

Never had a problem with the pliers which i bought years ago from j and s products,work for me every time , :y
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