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[chrisgixer]

Re weighting the car, Wim don't bother on this model.  -1.10 is an unloaded figure.

They used too, they weighted the drivers side on my first two visits to them (many years ago), they also asked what weight is usually carried in the boot of the vehicle.

Interesting. I remember discussions on it here a while back, but they never approached the subject on any of my visits, I asked Tony directly once, just shook his head.

But as I have poly I didn't really worry too much. If oe bushes, I would of asked specifically to have it weighted and the wishbone bolts re tightened.

They had issues with centring the steering wheel, which later turned out to be rear track rods, and I asked if me sitting in the car would help when it was set up, and the answer was no. But that's a different question to ride height.

Don't know why they don't. Or the thinking behind not doing so, I should say.

[Webby the Bear]

Not getting involved in the debate as I don't have the first clue about set up by diy. . . .

However isn't the most cost effective way to take your car to a shop that has the laser alignment and simply give them the settings from WIM?

Or a trip to WIM obviously being the best scenario?

[chrisgixer]

Not getting involved in the debate as I don't have the first clue about set up by diy. . . .

However isn't the most cost effective way to take your car to a shop that has the laser alignment and simply give them the settings from WIM?

Or a trip to WIM obviously being the best scenario?

Yes, but courtesy to Wim is a bit awkward sadly. Ultimately the correct settings do need inputting via a hunter hawk eye rig. With an operator prepared to go the extra mile to be within tolerance.

The issue here with a company that doesn't know the omega is the book settings are not good enough. It does NEED the wim setting/-1.10 camber etc.

So direct answer, yes Webby. Correct

[VXL V6]

Not getting involved in the debate as I don't have the first clue about set up by diy. . . .

However isn't the most cost effective way to take your car to a shop that has the laser alignment and simply give them the settings from WIM?

Or a trip to WIM obviously being the best scenario?

Option 2 without a shadow of a doubt! 

[Webby the Bear]

Not getting involved in the debate as I don't have the first clue about set up by diy. . . .

However isn't the most cost effective way to take your car to a shop that has the laser alignment and simply give them the settings from WIM?

Or a trip to WIM obviously being the best scenario?

Yes, but courtesy to Wim is a bit awkward sadly. Ultimately the correct settings do need inputting via a hunter hawk eye rig. With an operator prepared to go the extra mile to be within tolerance.

The issue here with a company that doesn't know the omega is the book settings are not good enough. It does NEED the wim setting/-1.10 camber etc.

So direct answer, yes Webby. Correct

That's the thing isn't it. If using ANother shop you need to really be watching them do it and trust they are following your advice.

Making it easy for them to do is also helpful (ie making sure you have new rear track rods so they're easy to turn etc.) otherwise you could just get a 'that will do' scenario.

Scott's tyres in northampton will do it (obviously local to me) but the guy there knows his onions and wasn't surprised when I asked gave him WIM settings.

[chrisgixer]

Not getting involved in the debate as I don't have the first clue about set up by diy. . . .

However isn't the most cost effective way to take your car to a shop that has the laser alignment and simply give them the settings from WIM?

Or a trip to WIM obviously being the best scenario?

Yes, but courtesy to Wim is a bit awkward sadly. Ultimately the correct settings do need inputting via a hunter hawk eye rig. With an operator prepared to go the extra mile to be within tolerance.

The issue here with a company that doesn't know the omega is the book settings are not good enough. It does NEED the wim setting/-1.10 camber etc.

So direct answer, yes Webby. Correct

That's the thing isn't it. If using ANother shop you need to really be watching them do it and trust they are following your advice.

Making it easy for them to do is also helpful (ie making sure you have new rear track rods so they're easy to turn etc.) otherwise you could just get a 'that will do' scenario.

Scott's tyres in northampton will do it (obviously local to me) but the guy there knows his onions and wasn't surprised when I asked gave him WIM settings.

That's a lot of the battle, having an open minded operator is key. They sound worth a go, from what you said.

[Webby the Bear]

...assuming you can get the old boy to do it and no one of the lads 

[TheBoy]

Not getting involved in the debate as I don't have the first clue about set up by diy. . . .

However isn't the most cost effective way to take your car to a shop that has the laser alignment and simply give them the settings from WIM?

Or a trip to WIM obviously being the best scenario?

Just to be clear, it needs somewhere with the gear to do a full geometry check (ie, Hunter Hawk HD or similar), which is completely different and far more capable than what most places call "laser alignment", which is little more than dangling some mirrors and measuring bars off the wheels, and can at best get the front toe correct on the assumption the rear toe is perfect.

[Webby the Bear]

Scott's have the full set up measuring all the angles. No idea of the name. But it was similar to the one we had at college.

Bloody expensive tho

[05omegav6]

Not allowing you in the car up on the table is a liability issue rather than a geometrical one

They tread a fine line allowing people in to watch tbh

[ajsphead]

When setting front camber with new springs do you set the machine up for 2 x 70kg weights then actually put the weights in or do as per old springs and leave them out of the car?

[chrisgixer]

More important to let the suspension settle for a week or three IMO. But that means getting the figures in the ball park diy on install. Which isn't for everyone.

[ajsphead]

Everything on the front is being replaced so there won't be any datum points to work from off the old suspension. Car also gets used everyday so it's a one shot exercise with a review of tyre wear in a few months (does about 6K a year)

[Lazydocker]

Everything on the front is being replaced so there won't be any datum points to work from off the old suspension. Car also gets used everyday so it's a one shot exercise with a review of tyre wear in a few months (does about 6K a year)

Take the measurements from your old stuff before taking it off, then the wear should be similar to now

[chrisgixer]

Everything on the front is being replaced so there won't be any datum points to work from off the old suspension. Car also gets used everyday so it's a one shot exercise with a review of tyre wear in a few months (does about 6K a year)

Take the measurements from your old stuff before taking it off, then the wear should be similar to now

...as the guide on setting camber from the previous pre dismantled setting.