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Non fault accident
« on: 16 July 2015, 22:50:26 »

Not me, mother. In Tesco  petrol station 10 days or so ago and some dosey tart in a 4x4 reversed into her not once, but twice!! Written off the vehicle 15 yr old 306 estate.

Here's the issue... Her insurance company (Tesco) had to be informed to get them to recover it but acted so quickly they had inspected and declared it a Cat B(!) within 2 working days. They have decided that 143k is high mileage and reduced value by £68 and knocked her for pre accident condition. LV (other party) are now refusing to make an offer because Tesco have (incorrectly) declared it Cat B. So... She ends up with an offer that fails to put her into the position she was in pre-accident  >:(

OK... She made a mistake... I told her not to let them take the car anywhere other than home but the long and the short is that we have had to accept an insulting offer as an interim payment and lodge a complaint with the FOS because Tesco were TOO Efficient in valuing the vehicle!

Frustrating thing, and I've argued this with Tesco, is that the engineer is wrong... It should be Cat C, not B. We have an old car, different shade of blue but otherwise identical, with a knackered engine (or was it gearbox?) so I could have repaired the damage (Bonnet, slam, wings, Rad, headlamps and possibly bumper) with minimal outlay (some coolant and possibly some fixings) but because the Tesco engineer categorised it incorrectly she is now stuck with no car and a payout of less than half the market value of the vehicle due to his "expert assessment"!!

Rant over... Just gotta deal with FOS for her now ::)

Should add, I've been dealing from 2 days later and have informed both companies that they have tried to bully and take advantage of a woman in her 60's >:(
« Last Edit: 16 July 2015, 22:52:32 by Lazydocker »
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Re: Non fault accident
« Reply #1 on: 16 July 2015, 23:16:28 »

Sorry mate, and you have already accepted it was your Mother at fault here, but Tesco Insurance should not have had anything to do with this other than to deal with LV.  LV should have arranged the transport of the vehicle to wherever your Mother (the owner) decided).  What the hell did Tesco think they were doing by assesing the damage?  :o

My insurance is up for renewal soon - I'll be sure to steer well clear of Tesco.
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Re: Non fault accident
« Reply #2 on: 17 July 2015, 01:10:06 »

I wouldn't be too quick to recommend Lv either after they sold my details >:(

Anywhoo, as frustrating as it is, it's only a car, and no lasting harm done...
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Re: Non fault accident
« Reply #3 on: 17 July 2015, 07:42:30 »

Sorry mate, and you have already accepted it was your Mother at fault here, but Tesco Insurance should not have had anything to do with this other than to deal with LV.  LV should have arranged the transport of the vehicle to wherever your Mother (the owner) decided).  What the hell did Tesco think they were doing by assesing the damage?  :o

My insurance is up for renewal soon - I'll be sure to steer well clear of Tesco.

She wasn't really at fault... She had to report it as an accident to get it recovered as her breakdown cover didn't cover post accident recovery.  It was a Saturday lunch time so it had to be moved off of the forecourt. Tesco just worked efficiently. Seems wrong to be lodging a complaint against them for being too efficient!! In hindsight she should have just left it in the middle of the forecourt blocking the pumps until LV got in touch 3 days later... I'm sure they would have reimbursed Tesco the £4000/hour that they value their pumps at :o ::)

Anywhoo... I'm sure the FOS will agree that the vehicle has been undervalued and wrongly categorised and award in her favour, just a PITA to have to deal with it
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Re: Non fault accident
« Reply #4 on: 17 July 2015, 07:47:16 »

I wouldn't be too quick to recommend Lv either after they sold my details >:(

Anywhoo, as frustrating as it is, it's only a car, and no lasting harm done...

Indeed... Fortunately no serious injuries, although the elderly lady who was in the car with mum has not been right and had a couple of trips to hospital since. Nothing we can put a finger on but very out of sorts. Mum has been a lot more shaken than she realised too it seems.  But then it's not that surprising... Imaging sitting at the pumps with your keys in your hand and having a 4x4 reverse up, hit you once, then pull forward and have another go at speed!! Over £3k of damage in a petrol station? Daft mare >:( >:(
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Re: Non fault accident
« Reply #5 on: 17 July 2015, 09:43:04 »

I wouldn't be too quick to recommend Lv either after they sold my details >:(

Anywhoo, as frustrating as it is, it's only a car, and no lasting harm done...

Indeed... Fortunately no serious injuries, although the elderly lady who was in the car with mum has not been right and had a couple of trips to hospital since. Nothing we can put a finger on but very out of sorts. Mum has been a lot more shaken than she realised too it seems.  But then it's not that surprising... Imaging sitting at the pumps with your keys in your hand and having a 4x4 reverse up, hit you once, then pull forward and have another go at speed!! Over £3k of damage in a petrol station? Daft mare >:( >:(

They walk among us. Actually, it's worse than that. They drive among us. :(

I wish your mum and the other lady all the best in recovering from the ordeal. That's more important than the metal, as said. I'd be rather livid if an insurance company did that to me, though. >:(
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Re: Non fault accident
« Reply #6 on: 17 July 2015, 13:03:34 »

[Tin foil hat on] I'm sure there's a scam among insurers and write offs. [tin foil hat off]

Are Tescon part of direct line group of companies? Along with the other parties insurers per chance...?
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Re: Non fault accident
« Reply #7 on: 17 July 2015, 20:13:57 »

[Tin foil hat on] I'm sure there's a scam among insurers and write offs. [tin foil hat off]

Are Tescon part of direct line group of companies? Along with the other parties insurers per chance...?
There is a scam of sorts.
Insurers own the accident management company's, they also,control the prices paid to body shops, its all about profits, also check who your insurers are,as most of the sellers are selling the big companies policy,, agees,pru etc.
Its a cartel or old boys club.
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Re: Non fault accident
« Reply #8 on: 17 July 2015, 23:55:19 »

[Tin foil hat on] I'm sure there's a scam among insurers and write offs. [tin foil hat off]

Are Tescon part of direct line group of companies? Along with the other parties insurers per chance...?
There is a scam of sorts.
Insurers own the accident management company's, they also,control the prices paid to body shops, its all about profits, also check who your insurers are,as most of the sellers are selling the big companies policy,, agees,pru etc.
Its a cartel or old boys club.

Yep. Fully encountered among the fiasco of a claim surrounding an argument with a Range Rover.
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Re: Non fault accident
« Reply #9 on: 18 July 2015, 10:45:52 »

[Tin foil hat on] I'm sure there's a scam among insurers and write offs. [tin foil hat off]

Are Tescon part of direct line group of companies? Along with the other parties insurers per chance...?

My first thought but actually different companies. Tesco used to be underwritten by DL Group but appear to have moved on.

The FOS will be involved now and I'm certain they will rule in our favour. Just a pain to deal with.
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Re: Non fault accident
« Reply #10 on: 18 July 2015, 20:17:25 »

When my last Senator was written off a few years ago it was insured-through Swinton-by a company called Towergate,this it transpired is one of the names used by Aviva.The other driver-whos fault the accident was-was insured by Aviva>So basically they finished up fighting themselves with regards to any payout :o
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Re: Non fault accident
« Reply #11 on: 19 July 2015, 09:54:41 »

What was the other driver's explanation for hitting the same car twice? This has baffled me
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« Reply #12 on: 19 July 2015, 10:14:46 »

What was the other driver's explanation for hitting the same car twice? This has baffled me

I've not even bothered asking... Strangely enough they have admitted full liability ::)
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Re: Non fault accident
« Reply #13 on: 21 July 2015, 17:50:42 »

Slight update on this... Tesco initially offered £312 and refused to budge. LV looked at the same "Emgineers" report (in the loosest possible term, he didn't even attempt to open the bonnet!) and valued it at £525... £25 more than I was actually trying to get!!

Anyways... No need to deal with FOS now, just got to find her a replacement
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