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Re: Channel Tunnel disruption
« Reply #60 on: 30 July 2015, 21:16:33 »

I was thinking more long the lines of securing/defending the entrance to the tunnel rather than the port as a whole :-\
And that is all that is needed for that part of the operation to stop them  :y

148 immigrants Got through this week.. And that is the ones they Know about.
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Re: Channel Tunnel disruption
« Reply #61 on: 30 July 2015, 21:26:09 »

Let them into the tunnel but divert them through a newly built tunnel back to france  :-\
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Re: Channel Tunnel disruption
« Reply #62 on: 31 July 2015, 03:56:23 »

I was thinking more long the lines of securing/defending the entrance to the tunnel rather than the port as a whole :-\
And that is all that is needed for that part of the operation to stop them  :y

148 immigrants Got through this week.. And that is the ones they Know about.
Alternatively increase traffic volume and speed.
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Re: Channel Tunnel disruption
« Reply #63 on: 31 July 2015, 09:40:11 »

What I don't get is the HGV drivers know there are proplems at the tunnel so why not go a different route and avoid the tunnel delays
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Re: Channel Tunnel disruption
« Reply #64 on: 31 July 2015, 10:49:12 »

What I don't get is the HGV drivers know there are proplems at the tunnel so why not go a different route and avoid the tunnel delays

Because they don't have any choice... They take the crossing they are booked on, especially as it's expensive enough for a short crossing ;)
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Re: Channel Tunnel disruption
« Reply #65 on: 31 July 2015, 11:27:36 »

Its no good sending them back to France....we should find the countries of origin, transport them through with military escort, take them to an airfield then fly them to the country of origin.
If the countries won't accept them....fit them with a parachute, and just shove them out !!!!!!!
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Re: Channel Tunnel disruption
« Reply #66 on: 31 July 2015, 11:30:51 »

What I don't get is the HGV drivers know there are proplems at the tunnel so why not go a different route and avoid the tunnel delays

Because they don't have any choice... They take the crossing they are booked on, especially as it's expensive enough for a short crossing ;)

Yep the Calais route is much cheaper for hauliers.  Even if heading west to say Portugal it's cheaper to drive from Calais than do the Plymouth-Santander ferry.  ;)

However, if you factor in the cost of sitting on the M20 for a couple of days and all the aggro involved at Calais for the drivers, you'd think that haulage companies would be looking at alternatives.  :-\
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Re: Channel Tunnel disruption
« Reply #67 on: 31 July 2015, 11:54:28 »

These people get stopped by the French police and released again......as per usual the French hidden agenda of 'they want to get out so let them keep trying until they do' as a major contributor to it.

 
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Re: Channel Tunnel disruption
« Reply #68 on: 31 July 2015, 12:43:32 »

What makes me laugh is that the French seem to think it's our problem. It wasn't us who forced them to sign away their own borders. If they took control of the border on the way IN there wouldn't be a problem.  ::)

Sadly, it is our problem, but only because I suspect all the French have to lose is a few tourists who'll vow never to go there again whilst we're cut off from mainland europe.
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Re: Channel Tunnel disruption
« Reply #69 on: 31 July 2015, 12:50:11 »

If the flow of migrants was heading the other way could you imagine the British authorities allowing 3000 odd people (including children) to rough camp in and around Dover?  :-\
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« Reply #70 on: 31 July 2015, 12:58:20 »

If the flow of migrants was heading the other way could you imagine the British authorities allowing 3000 odd people (including children) to rough camp in and around Dover?  :-\
Why not? One out, one in works well enough at night clubs...
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Re: Channel Tunnel disruption
« Reply #71 on: 31 July 2015, 13:29:24 »

I was thinking more long the lines of securing/defending the entrance to the tunnel rather than the port as a whole :-\

Even in that scenario,  mission creep would be inevitable.

Shouldn't be a problem, Paris will be an open city. ::) ::) ::)
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Re: Channel Tunnel disruption
« Reply #72 on: 31 July 2015, 13:34:11 »

Traffic permitting  ;D
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Re: Channel Tunnel disruption
« Reply #73 on: 31 July 2015, 14:22:47 »

I sure I remember some politician saying that the tunnel would cause a lot of trouble when it was first suggested
Tunnel isn't the problem. Its the bloody French who are the problem, .
I disagree (mostly). Yes, the French are clearly keen not to put up too much of a barrier, but the problem is definitely within the UK. Stop them from wanting to come
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Re: Channel Tunnel disruption
« Reply #74 on: 31 July 2015, 14:32:16 »

How do you do that, though? I get the impression a great many of them are trafficked out of their country of origin by people who make millions out of that process as a business. Many of these people probably have little or no access to the internet so their knowledge of "England is a land of free stuff" will come from the people who stand to make money trafficking them here.

Even if you change the rules on benefits etc, do you think the traffickers will change their tune to those desperate to leave?

You'd still need direct action to eliminate the traffickers that the country of origin has no stomach for..
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