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[amba]

Had to drive down M20 this morning ,thankfully the "lorry park" has gone ..well for the time being .

Can honestly say its a disgrace the rubbish/plastic bottles (no doudt used as toilets) and every other imaginable item of rubbish left on the hard shoulder and central reservation.

Yes I do feel sorry for the lorry drivers being stuck there for hour on end ,but somebody should of made them take their rubbish away.Its bad enough every mile or so having a DavLav adding to the scenery of Kent, but the rubbish is quite disgraceful.More money on the clearup to be added to the taxes in Kent I expect

[the alarming man]

I doubt if they will clean it andrew as stack will be back by Wednesday 

[Varche]

A by product of the inactivity of Cameron.  I said weeks ago when it all kicked off that the whole thing is a national disgrace and the government should have acted swiftly.

The lorry park has gone? Has it just been moved to MOD land?

What amazes me is that the British public and businesses just put up with it.   

[the alarming man]

A by product of the inactivity of Cameron.  I said weeks ago when it all kicked off that the whole thing is a national disgrace and the government should have acted swiftly.

The lorry park has gone? Has it just been moved to MOD land?

What amazes me is that the British public and businesses just put up with it.

What land??.....the only land they could use is the firing range at hythe and tbh I hope they know were the mines are they have buried over there or we could have a few trucks going bang...but they have not decided on that and again we still have a redundant airport 30 miles away where a few lorries can park but the problem is finding some where you can park 35 miles of lorries 

[amba]

Operation Stack has and will be a continuing for Kent for some considerable time.

What really annoyed me today was the complete lack of any form of respect for the area ..rubbish on hard shoulder and central reservation with no sign of any bins ,just the odd DavLav .Expect M20 will be shut when they eventually decide to clear the rubbish up on H@S grounds or a infestation of Foxes causes the Tree Huggers to declare it an Area Of Outstanding..something or other.Utter tip   

[Entwood]

A by product of the inactivity of Cameron.  I said weeks ago when it all kicked off that the whole thing is a national disgrace and the government should have acted swiftly.

The lorry park has gone? Has it just been moved to MOD land?

What amazes me is that the British public and businesses just put up with it.

I fail to see how anyone, other than the drivers themselves, can be blamed for their lack of consideration for their suroundings or other people. Litter is litter, it doesn't happen by itself.. it is a product of lack of respect, lack of thought and pure bloody laziness... but its always easier to blame a politician for something he has no control of as its a nice easy shot that makes a good sound bite ... just like Harman always does... never let the truth get in the way of a good sound bite ....

[henryd]

A by product of the inactivity of Cameron.  I said weeks ago when it all kicked off that the whole thing is a national disgrace and the government should have acted swiftly.

The lorry park has gone? Has it just been moved to MOD land?

What amazes me is that the British public and businesses just put up with it.

I fail to see how anyone, other than the drivers themselves, can be blamed for their lack of consideration for their suroundings or other people. Litter is litter, it doesn't happen by itself.. it is a product of lack of respect, lack of thought and pure bloody laziness... but its always easier to blame a politician for something he has no control of as its a nice easy shot that makes a good sound bite ... just like Harman always does... never let the truth get in the way of a good sound bite ....

Yep,very true.

[Varche]

Sorry but it is a by product of Camerons inactivity. If Eurotunnel was operating securely then there wouldn't be operation stack. That doesn't excuse the lorry drivers in any way for fly tipping. That too is disgusting.

As an aside how long before the migrants mysteriously obtain bolt croppers to attack the new fence with.....

[the alarming man]

Sorry but it is a by product of Camerons inactivity. If Eurotunnel was operating securely then there wouldn't be operation stack. That doesn't excuse the lorry drivers in any way for fly tipping. That too is disgusting.

As an aside how long before the migrants mysteriously obtain bolt croppers to attack the new fence with.....

I have to agree but as it is our border in France (and yes it is ours not the frence) we should be able to protect it how we wish and I would stop this problem in a matter of days...put the gurkas out there and arm them with permission anyone that comes through the fence gets shot....bit heavy handed some may think but it will only take 2-3 and the word will go round...and for all those that think this is me being racist or anything along these lines don't even go there I sat in 4 hours of traffic on Thursday to do a trip that should take 1.5 hours tops and to be racist you have to single out a specific race and you will notice I did state 'anyone'

[the alarming man]

personally I feel this is the best idea all round

[Terbs]

One woman was interviewed tonight on the box...what a load of crap. Also some bloke 'wanted to see his family'. There are legal ways to come over to 'see the family'.
I can't recall loads of Brits doing the same to get abroad 'to see the family'

I know as an earlier poster said, its a bit draconian, but the use of firearms, has to be considered. Shooting over their heads to start with, they should get the message.
One thing I noticed is that they seem to think they are welcome here, why is nothing being done to tell them they are not., No paperwork, no troops, nothing....how are they supposed to get the message
The aforementioned woman, did not have an answer when asked why not France or Italy....bleated on about how we will give her this and that, etc.
Not gonna say any more...probably upset some anyway!!!!!!!

[Broomies Mate]

The only thing Cameron has done wrong is not flying to France and kicking François Hollande in the happy-sack.

 

[biggriffin]

The biggest problem,with taking the heavy hand with the "swarm" is reminders of 70 years ago in Europe, and being called a racist, which the. Opposition and do-gooders are already doing,
The person to blame is good ole America and uncle Tony's foreign policy, don't see the Americans opening there doors
Or going extreme, re-form ss-divisions, namely deaths head, or toten gruppen.

[TheBoy]

Close the tunnel until the problem is resolved. If that means permanently, so be it.

[biggriffin]

Close the tunnel until the problem is resolved. If that means permanently, so be it.

Is that a biased answer, as we all know,of your love of le shuttle ,or a rational thought process?
A slight flaw, would move the problem to the port