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[Lazydocker]

Looks like pilot error.

If so he must feel beyond bad.

It was a major factor, but there were other things at play also.

[2boxerdogs]

Tilbo its plain to me that from those your last 2 posts on this subject, you know sweet f**k all about mentality of aircrew, or anything about the maintenance of aircraft 

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Did I say I did ? It is you who is  giving the expert opinion !

[X30XE]

Tilbo its plain to me that from those your last 2 posts on this subject, you know sweet f**k all about mentality of aircrew, or anything about the maintenance of aircraft 

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Did I say I did ? It is you who is  giving the expert opinion !

Apparently it seems that if you're driving like a twunt on the A27 pushing your car to the limits, ultimate responsibility rests with you.  Not the bloke at quickfit who did the tyres... not your mom... not the MOT man... YOU. 

However if you're showing off in an aircraft near populated areas for no legitimate reason the same clearly doesn't apply. 

Still, at least the pilot isn't a biker it seems, as one would assume that if he was he'd be blaming the cars for cutting him up/spilled diesel... in the sky.

[Nick W]

Looks like pilot error.

If so he must feel beyond bad.

It was a major factor, but there were other things at play also.

That the aircraft came down where it did is partly due to organisers of the show.
The actual cause of the crash  is purely down to the pilot attempting manoeuvres too low to the ground and without enough speed to complete them. From what I hear, much of that is due to him being both poorly prepared and inexperienced in type. Which makes it very difficult to feel any sympathy for him.

[2boxerdogs]

IP

Looks like pilot error.

If so he must feel beyond bad.

It was a major factor, but there were other things at play also.

That the aircraft came down where it did is partly due to organisers of the show.
The actual cause of the crash  is purely down to the pilot attempting manoeuvres too low to the ground and without enough speed to complete them. From what I hear, much of that is due to him being both poorly prepared and inexperienced in type. Which makes it very difficult to feel any sympathy for him.

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Quite agree we all have a duty of care each time we are in control of a vehicle to our passengers and to the general public/fellow motorists, this is where the pilot in question has failed either through lack of training or a poorly maintained aircraft.As for my comment regarding his lack of memory regarding the incident in my 20+ years in H.M.P.S I have lost count of the number of men who have told me they can't recall the details of a life changing incident, especially when blame or guilt can be proven. However this pilot in my opinion did not commit a crime but must face up to the consequences of his actions.

[Doctor Gollum]

Big difference in the mindset of paid up Unison members and a commercial pilot trying to deliver a show in a classic aircraft for free...

You could perhaps compare the pilot to a twenty something bloke who has been driving for 9 years and crashing an uncles restored E type after misjudging a familiar bend.

[Doctor Gollum]

Two words he won't forget in a hurry:

Sink rate.

[tigers_gonads]

Tilbo its plain to me that from those your last 2 posts on this subject, you know sweet f**k all about mentality of aircrew, or anything about the maintenance of aircraft 

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Did I say I did ? It is you who is  giving the expert opinion !

Eh no 

I was giving MY opinion based on nearly 7 years of working with aircrew, maintaining fast jets and understanding what makes them fly, limited stick time in single engine light aircraft and the od jolly in fast jets which I performed the od trick when the jockey of the day allowed me too 

If you actually LOOK at what I put back in post 79, I think I got it pretty much spot on 

At the end of the day, the pilot oppsed up.
He went over the top far too slow with nowhere enough energy to finish the manoeuvre.
If he could do it all again, he would have reversed the manoeuvre at the top, pushed the nose down a little while keeping the throttle open and flew off in the opposite direction.
He didn't and we all know what happened after that 

As for blame ??
You can bleat on about training, experience, health and safety, risk assessment till your blue in the face but at the end of the day, the pilot flew the manoeuvre and oppsed it up, simples ........     

[2boxerdogs]

And I was giving my opinion, I never mentioned knowing anything about aircraft maintenance but you seemed fit to jump in feet first as for 7 years experience not exactly a lifetime is it !

[tigers_gonads]

And I was giving my opinion, I never mentioned knowing anything about aircraft maintenance but you seemed fit to jump in feet first as for 7 years experience not exactly a lifetime is it !

I suggest you re read post 83 

Reference your signature at the bottom of ALL your posts .............

" When you are old you know everything,trouble is you have to deal with people who know nothing."  It really doesn't do you any favours now does it 

Ever heard of the saying, "when in a hole, stop digging" 

[2boxerdogs]

Really clutching at straws now, "Please feel free to give it back in the same spirit" Always amuses me when individuals like to dish it out but don't like it returned.
😂😂😂

[tigers_gonads]

Tilbo or whatever your real name is 

Your just not worth it chum   

 

[STEMO]

Well....I put 'don't be offended' in my sig but, when I call someone a fat, ignorant pig, they go and get all offended like. Sheesh....

[tigers_gonads]

Well....I put 'don't be offended' in my sig but, when I call someone a fat, ignorant pig, they go and get all offended like. Sheesh....

And you can break off 

[2boxerdogs]

Tilbo or whatever your real name is 

Your just not worth it chum   

 

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I can assure you the feeling is mutual.