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[aaronjb]

Thank you all for advice. Sub frame off job, eh? I know some FWD drive cars with transverse engines allow easy clutch changing, apparently not the Signum. I understand that the lady has got a quote of £700 from another garage and accepted it.

Vauxhall had the perfect system with an inspection plate and "cassette" type clutch change. You could change it in around 30 minutes Unfortunately they shelved that a long time ago

Because 30 minutes labour a time would never pay for the fancy premises, receptionists, tea, coffee etc.. </cynical>

[andyc]

The reason the drop out clutch was stopped was down to Brussels. To meet the new emission laws back in the early nineties the engines were leaned off and to keep the inertia the flywheel needed to be heavier and as they could not make the diameter bigger they had to make it thicker with a pot style clutch, reason for the pot style is GM were using old style gear boxes on new style engines

Cheers
Andy

[pscocoa]

I had 2 dmfs and clutches under warranty on my old Signum 1 9cdti. If you go on the Vectra / Signum forum there are a lot of threads - recall there was a guy doing clutch  swaps reasonably priced

[terry paget]

Thank you all for advice. Sub frame off job, eh? I know some FWD drive cars with transverse engines allow easy clutch changing, apparently not the Signum. I understand that the lady has got a quote of £700 from another garage and accepted it.

That sounds a lot of money to keep a Signum on the road. How old is the car?

Which petrol engine does it use?

Car is a 2005 model, engine size unknown. Owner has just put on new tyres so claims she cannot afford to scrap it. The price includes a new flywheel (DMF?), clutch slave cylinder and thrust bearing. I think this is good many after bad, but it's her choice.

[Andy B]

As a comparison I just got two quotes today for a water pump change on my Smart Roadster.
A new water pump is about £90 to buy .......
MB quoted me £330 ...... 1.8 hrs + £30 for antifreeze  and another £11 for the 'fan belt'
The Merc/Smart Independent phoned me and before he told me his quote I told him what he had to beat ........ he told me to go to MB because though he knew that MB would quote for nearly two hours labour, he reckoned it couldn't be done in that time and his quote was 'double that' of MB 

I've removed the water pump with the engine in-situ (the book says the engine needs to be dropped) ..... I'm collecting the new one tomorrow.

[Broomies Mate]

I've removed the water pump with the engine in-situ (the book says the engine needs to be dropped) ..... I'm collecting the new one tomorrow.

So, the engine is in-situ?  Ahh, you removed the car from around it! 

[Andy B]

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  Ahh, you removed the car from around it! 

Not far off 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

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  Ahh, you removed the car from around it! 

Not far off 

Just think of the satisfaction that can be had when it's sorted.

Priceless.

[Andy B]

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Just think of the satisfaction that can be had when it's sorted.

Priceless.

Now sorted  It only took me an hour or so to fit it 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

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Just think of the satisfaction that can be had when it's sorted.

Priceless.

Now sorted  It only took me an hour or so to fit it 

how much money have you saved?

[Andy B]

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how much money have you saved?

£250 min