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[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Seems a bit quiet on here lately. This subject might liven things up a bit ? 

[STEMO]

 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

You could say that about anything. Besides, you just commented. 

[STEMO]

No I didn't. 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

 < last edit etc.....> kinda gives it away. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Somebody is taking 800,000 people,

Is it us?

[STEMO]

Somebody is taking 800,000 people,

Is it us?

You could accommodate a good few hundred in your generously proportioned house, plus a thousand more across the many outbuildings in your extensive grounds.
Perhaps one (or two) of the eager young males could attend to Mrs Opti's needs while you visit her sister. 

[05omegav6]

Somebody is taking 800,000 people,

Is it us?

At risk of coming across a complete canute, I hope not.

Whilst it is tragic that people feel the need to run away, it is abhorrent that they would consider endangering their kids in the process. If something is terrible enough to risk losing everything in order to run away from, then surely it is worth staying to face/fight?

ISIS, or whatever the opps the media call them today, and their ilk are nothing more than cockroach scum and should be treated as such. Those cants* have NO place whatsoever on this planet, and should be dealt with at source. Permanently.
 
Perhaps then all those people making a beeline for Europe and it's handouts would instead consider investing the same effort into restoring their countries back into their homes. As a tax payer, I would feel happier with my money being spent on rebuilding the lives of these refugees in their own countries in order that they have somewhere to call home and be proud of than subsidise their lives of isolation and resentment here.
 
Pandering to media driven emotional blackmail is no solution to anything.

* not my first choice of word, but woebetide that I should offend anyone with my point of view

[Rods2]

Germany has a major demographic problem and like us Ponzi pension, welfare and health systems. They are now solving this by boosting their population by 800,000 or 1% by taking in large numbers of refugees. They could be doing much worse than taking in middle class Syrians. Liebour preferred to target uneducated, unskilled illiterates for immirgration as they are more likely to be lifelong Liebour voters. If you look at how the several 100,000's of middle class Ugandan Asians Amin kicked out and we accepted in the early 1980's, they have integrated well with earnings above average. Australia got it right with their points based system.

Any decent family man will do the best he can for his family and if that means fleeing rather than having to dodge regular gas attacks (chlorine gas) and helicopter dropped barrel bombs where Assad is deliberately targeting civilian areas then he is sensible to do so.

If you are going to flee do you aim for another sh*thole country or the best you can manage in terms prospects for a good life for you and your family? I personally don't have a problem with taking people if they are prepared to fit in and we can accommodate them with houses and jobs and they in return contribute through hard work and good citizenship to our society.

Conversely, about 200,000 British leave the UK every year primarily for Europe, Australia, New Zealand and the USA, where they can create a better life for themselves in these countries. Migration is something humans (along with many other animals) have naturally done right from the earliest times. It is only from the 20th century onwards that many countries have had immigration policies, before that anybody could pretty much move and live anywhere.

You talk to any civilian who is caught up in a war zone and they will tell you one thing, anything and everything is better than being in a warzone. Joining the army and fighting is fine for some people, but not for many others, as not everybody is an alpha-male warrior.

[05omegav6]

I personally don't have a problem with taking people if they are prepared to fit in and we can accommodate them with houses and jobs and they in return contribute through hard work and good citizenship to our society.

Agreed, but it's a very big 'if'...

Incidentally, that's a pretty tidy definition of the difference between a migrant and a refugee.

[Jusme]

What I find worrying is, watching the filming of these crowds and files of refugees. There are a helluva lot of young blokes dressed quite smartly, backpacks and the 'obligatory' baseball cap, (Yuck!) seemingly alone, certainly they are not with a wife, dad, kid/s etc. Are they running away or...... 'running to'?

[Varche]

A few days ago , I suggested to Mrs V that there could be a very effective seeding policy by Satanic State so called caliphate. Put a few passportless, historyless jihadists in with the hordes and then they get dispersed all over Europe. The traffickers may even be sponsored by Satanic State in some cases.

The whole thing is a mess and shows up the EU for what it is a lumbering leviathon unable to make decisions. Just when you thought the mess they made with Greece and the Euro was unbeatable along comes this migrant crisis. Germany has said it will take half a million a year. Good as I have a suspicion that next year the numbers will be greater than this year.

Spain is keeping its head down and taking precious few. Those they do take go to detention centres of grim stature. No benefits and handouts and free homes here. Having said that many cities have offered to take large numbers if the government capitulates.     

[05omegav6]

What I find worrying is, watching the filming of these crowds and files of refugees. There are a helluva lot of young blokes dressed quite smartly, backpacks and the 'obligatory' baseball cap, (Yuck!) seemingly alone, certainly they are not with a wife, dad, kid/s etc. Are they running away or...... 'running to'?

Follow the Yellow Brick Road...

[05omegav6]

pain is keeping its head down and taking precious few. Those they do take go to detention centres of grim stature. No benefits and handouts and free homes here.

That seems perfectly reasonable. Genuine migrants wouldn't be there as they would be self sufficient, and refugees would bide their time to be processed whilst the potential ne'erdowells would soon show their true colours making a total hell of the centres, which in turn would deter future influxes...

In the meantime, Europe should be regulating it's borders, because at the moment there are no Borders, and that is utterly untenable.

[SteveAvfc.]

DOESN,T MAKE MUCH SENCE, DOES IT
Homeless go without eating. Elderly go without needed medicines.
Mentally ill go without treatment. Troops go without proper equipment.
Veterans go without benefits that were promised. Yet we donate billions to other countries, and excessive immigration before helping our own first.

My bessie served in Bosnia for the UN when they had there troubles and as he says there wasnt a call for all of europe to take in refugees/immigrants then.