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Labour leadership battle.
« on: 11 September 2015, 12:08:10 »

Well......it seems like only two people can save the world.

Flash Gordon and Jeremy Corbyn. :)

In my opinion there is nothing new or radical about Corbyn. The younger generation believe the 'old boy' is cool simply because they were not around when his policies were the norm for a socialist government.

Please don't think I'm being being sexist or dismissive when I say that the two girlies in the contest (I forget their names ::)) should be viewed as 'not up to the job'. Leadership is a  job for men and not women. Should I be forced to choose between them I would pick LK as she is marginally the more attractive of the pair. ::) ::) ;)


Sadly, this leaves dreary old Andy B as the best of a thoroughly uninspiring bunch. :-\


It looks as though Labour will remain in opposition long after I have curled my toes up. :-\

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Re: Labour leadership battle.
« Reply #1 on: 11 September 2015, 12:11:39 »

Can't see them winning back the huge amounts of votes they need with him, they will become like Lib Dems used to be  :-\

He wants to re-open the mines, re-nationalise the railways, women only carriages, no war (he would probably return Falkland to the Argies if he could  >:()
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Re: Labour leadership battle.
« Reply #2 on: 11 September 2015, 12:17:09 »

Bit of a politics thread?

I can see the labour party splitting up. maybe the split off part will attract former Lib Dem voters.

Either way pensioners might not live long enough to ever see a none Blue hue in power.
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Re: Labour leadership battle.
« Reply #3 on: 11 September 2015, 12:32:14 »

Corbyn's political agenda will never sit easily with the affluent south. Many will see him as a 'commie'... :'(

However, every cloud has a silver lining and he could win back much of the lost support north of Hadrian's wall.... :y

JC could well give 'wee Jimmy Krankie' a good kicking in the polls.  :D
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Re: Labour leadership battle.
« Reply #4 on: 11 September 2015, 12:56:50 »

Corbyn's political agenda will never sit easily with the affluent south. Many will see him as a 'commie'... :'(

However, every cloud has a silver lining and he could win back much of the lost support north of Hadrian's wall.... :y

JC could well give 'wee Jimmy Krankie' a good kicking in the polls.  :D

Without this, they are sunk! But SNP have quite a strangle hold up there now. Do you really think he could turn the tables on that?  :-\
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Re: Labour leadership battle.
« Reply #5 on: 11 September 2015, 12:59:07 »

Corbyn's political agenda will never sit easily with the affluent south. Many will see him as a 'commie'... :'(

However, every cloud has a silver lining and he could win back much of the lost support north of Hadrian's wall.... :y

JC could well give 'wee Jimmy Krankie' a good kicking in the polls.  :D

Without this, they are sunk! But SNP have quite a strangle hold up there now. Do you really think he could turn the tables on that?  :-\

It would be difficult but he has a better chance than the conservatives. :y

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Re: Labour leadership battle.
« Reply #6 on: 11 September 2015, 13:02:37 »

Corbyn's political agenda will never sit easily with the affluent south. Many will see him as a 'commie'... :'(

However, every cloud has a silver lining and he could win back much of the lost support north of Hadrian's wall.... :y

JC could well give 'wee Jimmy Krankie' a good kicking in the polls.  :D

Without this, they are sunk! But SNP have quite a strangle hold up there now. Do you really think he could turn the tables on that?  :-\

It would be difficult but he has a better chance than the conservatives. :y

Well true.... but can he do a better job than Ed for Scotland?  :-\ - I don't see it.
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Re: Labour leadership battle.
« Reply #7 on: 11 September 2015, 13:09:12 »

Corbyn's political agenda will never sit easily with the affluent south. Many will see him as a 'commie'... :'(

However, every cloud has a silver lining and he could win back much of the lost support north of Hadrian's wall.... :y

JC could well give 'wee Jimmy Krankie' a good kicking in the polls.  :D

Without this, they are sunk! But SNP have quite a strangle hold up there now. Do you really think he could turn the tables on that?  :-\

It would be difficult but he has a better chance than the conservatives. :y

Well true.... but can he do a better job than Ed for Scotland?  :-\ - I don't see it.

Scotland was a Labour stronghold for generations. It could be so again if the SNP fail to keep their promises. As said it won't be easy, and I'm not sure that JC is the man to turn things around. However, he may surprise us all if elected leader. :y



 
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Re: Labour leadership battle.
« Reply #8 on: 11 September 2015, 13:10:52 »

The parties have been so close together over the past years as to make no difference. At least people will know what they are voting for.

As an aside, the leadership contest may not yet be done and dusted. If Corbyn fails to get more than 50% in the first round, it's a nap that everyone will vote for whoever is opposing him in the second.

As an addendum, the bookies were offering 1/6 on Corbyn yesterday.
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Re: Labour leadership battle.
« Reply #9 on: 11 September 2015, 13:50:16 »


In my opinion there is nothing new or radical about Corbyn. The younger generation believe the 'old boy' is cool simply because they were not around when his policies were the norm for a socialist government.

It looks as though Labour will remain in opposition long after I have curled my toes up. :-\


I'm not so sure that if Corbyn wins he will consign Labour to the wilderness, as most of the electorate have no real recollections of the 1970's.  :-\  I was 10 when Maggie won her first election in 1979 and this was probably my first awareness of politics.  ::)

God help us if he does ever get the keys to Number 10 mind, but I think he'll get a lot of support from the yoofs, treehuggers, sandle wearing Guardian readers and the general ne'er-do-wells.  ::)
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« Reply #10 on: 11 September 2015, 13:52:28 »


In my opinion there is nothing new or radical about Corbyn. The younger generation believe the 'old boy' is cool simply because they were not around when his policies were the norm for a socialist government.

It looks as though Labour will remain in opposition long after I have curled my toes up. :-\


I'm not so sure that if Corbyn wins he will consign Labour to the wilderness, as most of the electorate have no real recollections of the 1970's.  :-\  I was 10 when Maggie won her first election in 1979 and this was probably my first awareness of politics.  ::)

God help us if he does ever get the keys to Number 10 mind, but I think he'll get a lot of support from the yoofs, treehuggers, sandle wearing Guardian readers and the general ne'er-do-wells.  ::)

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« Reply #11 on: 11 September 2015, 19:14:45 »

If he wins he will be by far the most left wing leader Liebour have ever had. Personally, I think Liebour will even struggle in the North of England as UKIP gave them a good fight and fright in many seats in the recent election. :y :y :y

In the North many people will never vote for the Tories because of what happened to the mining industry, but many suffered under the last  Liebour Government with their mass migration policies which have reduced many working class job's wages downwards to the minimum wage. This means they are much more likely to vote for UKIP in even bigger numbers at the next election. Union membership is still dropping where one thing that characterises the 21st century is the rise of SMEs and the self-employed, big union dominated industries is so 19th and 20th century these days.

Unless Liebour reconquer Crankie land, they won't form another one-party Government, even with that the English MP's only voting for English laws will be well established by 2020, which means Liebour will be in a minority when dealing with things like English income tax, education, welfare and the NHS etc as Welsh and Scottish assemblies handle this for Wales and Scotland either now or will do as part of the Scottish referendum settlement legislation that is currently going through parliament. BLiar, McRuin and Liebour have managed to maneuver themselves and Liebour into extinction with devolution. They were warned at the time and things have turned as as expected and I think Corbyn will be the icing on the top to further accelerate their demise.

I can see another Social Democratic party being formed by more moderate Liebour MPs and supporters, like happened in Pillock's and donkey jacket scarecrow's time, leaving the field open for the hard left, unions, old-Liebour and the Socialist Workers Party to occupy the extreme left fringes. The conservatives made the mistake of moving right with their leaders when they were defeated in 1997. I think the main lesson is that the majority of voters like conservative Liebour governments and wet Tory ones, where they both occupy the immediate left and right centre ground. It is interesting that Liebour under BLiar were more left wing than their propaganda portrayed and the converse is that the Tories are more right wing than their propaganda portrays them! ???

Like all left wing bigots Corbyn has some funny priorities. An example, is that he wants to reestablish the coal mining industry, but as a green, climate change zealot, nobody must burn the mined coal where it is the most polluting, CO2 releasing of all of the fossil fuels, eh?!!! :o :o :o

Personally, I find Corbyn as repulsive as that two-faced racist bigot 'service company tax dodging' Livingstone. Another don't do what I do, do what I say person. The only plus for Liebour under Corbyn is that at least George Galloway will have found a new natural political home. We can look forward to Corbyn, Livingstone and Galloway appearing together with their invited friends from ISIS, Al Qaeda and Hizbollah. :o :o :o
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« Reply #12 on: 11 September 2015, 19:28:48 »

My fear for democracy in the UK is that if JC wins, due to the internecine in-fighting that will follow within months of his election, we will not have an opposition strong enough to oppose the Government. History tells us that this country works better with a strong opposition. :y
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« Reply #13 on: 12 September 2015, 11:57:19 »

Well, the socialists have taken back their party. To any grown adult with life experience in the real world Corbyn is a dangerous idiot. He is a genuine dangerous idiot though which is why people (particularily the young) have voted for him.
So many people are sick and tired of the obvious fakery of the establishment leadership of the three Westminster parties. Since Thatcher, none of them have believed in anything but their own careers.
People have been looking for authenticity, conviction politicians, which is one reason why Farage has resonated with a lot of people.
Like Corbyn, you can agree or disagree with what they believe, but theres no doubting that their beliefs are genuine.
I believe that the media and the establishment will eat Corbyn alive. He  believes in all the things which very nearly destroyed this country in the 1970,s and made Thatcherism a necessary evil.
Any sensible person who is old enough to remember the bad old days, would shudder with fear and dread at the thought of the country going back there.
I predict that Labour wont win another election for another decade at least, which is a very good thing. The people who voted him in have probably as good as elected George Osborne as our next PM. Which probably wont be a very good thing.
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« Reply #14 on: 12 September 2015, 11:59:39 »

Ladies and Gentlemen I give you the new leaders of the Labour Party.................   Tom and Jerry!  :D  ;D
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