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[FRE07962128]

I have just seen a couple of kids outside my window playing with cap guns!  That is not something I have seen since about the 1960s!  In the 1950s it was common to see boys playing with them, but now in 2008, during all the stabbings and shootings we are witnessing, I am not sure this is a good thing at all.  In fact I am  sure it is NOT!  

Are we not allowing our kids to glorify war and killing as in the past, and thus grooming our society for another war?  Maybe that is what nature wants, as 60 billion humans on this planet is just too many?  I don't like thinking about that, but nature does have a way of thinning populations in the human as well as animal kingdom.

Maybe this is all too heavy for a sunny Sunday afternoon, but it certainly gets me thinking!!

What do you think?  Would you let your kids play with toy guns?  Where do you think we are all going from here on in? :-? :-?

[Mr Skrunts]

My caps guns, spud guns, Jhonny 7 Gun and Danial Boone Riffle.  Didnt seem to be me any harm.

Would still like a powerfull air riffle for target shooring.

Carrying in public and using them properly are 2 two different things.  But I think a lot depends on family upbringing.

[STMO123]

I have just seen a couple of kids outside my window playing with cap guns!  That is not something I have seen since about the 1960s!  In the 1950s it was common to see boys playing with them, but now in 2008, during all the stabbings and shootings we are witnessing, I am not sure this is a good thing at all.  In fact I am  sure it is NOT!  

Are we not allowing our kids to glorify war and killing as in the past, and thus grooming our society for another war?  Maybe that is what nature wants, as 60 billion humans on this planet is just too many?  I don't like thinking about that, but nature does have a way of thinning populations in the human as well as animal kingdom.

Maybe this is all too heavy for a sunny Sunday afternoon, but it certainly gets me thinking!!

What do you think?  Would you let your kids play with toy guns?  Where do you think we are all going from here on in? :-? :-?

That IS a lot Lizzie.  

[FRE07962128]

I have just seen a couple of kids outside my window playing with cap guns!  That is not something I have seen since about the 1960s!  In the 1950s it was common to see boys playing with them, but now in 2008, during all the stabbings and shootings we are witnessing, I am not sure this is a good thing at all.  In fact I am  sure it is NOT!  

Are we not allowing our kids to glorify war and killing as in the past, and thus grooming our society for another war?  Maybe that is what nature wants, as 60 billion humans on this planet is just too many?  I don't like thinking about that, but nature does have a way of thinning populations in the human as well as animal kingdom.

Maybe this is all too heavy for a sunny Sunday afternoon, but it certainly gets me thinking!!

What do you think?  Would you let your kids play with toy guns?  Where do you think we are all going from here on in? :-? :-?

That IS a lot Lizzie.  

Yes and they all require food, water and shelter, along with clean air to breath!

[HolyCount]

I think you will find many adults who played with toy guns ( or even made them out of sticks) as kids didn't turn into warmongers -- and some of the warmongers weren't allowed to play with toys guns.

As skruntie says -- it's a lot to do with upbringing. And that is one aspect of family life that appears to have gone down the pan these days.

Just after I left full time education came the era of educational and moral freedom -- kids didn't have to attend classes if they didn't want to. Parents were first denied the right to discipline these kids. A clip around the ear from the local Bobby brought a lawsuit for assualt ( instead of, as in my day, another clip for deserving the first clip!!).

These kids are now the parents of today -- and their kids the unruly YOOF with no moral guidance or conscience

[waspy]

Rachel's lad has had toy guns since he was a toddler, he's now thirteen & doesn't carry a knife or the like.
Being a farmers lad, I grew up around guns from a very early age & i've owned several. It was instilled in me to respect & to know how to use them. I personally don't see a problem with toy guns, we can't go around removing everything we don't like. As you said " you remember them from the 60's" has your generation grew up blowing people away? No

[STMO123]

I have just seen a couple of kids outside my window playing with cap guns!  That is not something I have seen since about the 1960s!  In the 1950s it was common to see boys playing with them, but now in 2008, during all the stabbings and shootings we are witnessing, I am not sure this is a good thing at all.  In fact I am  sure it is NOT!  

Are we not allowing our kids to glorify war and killing as in the past, and thus grooming our society for another war?  Maybe that is what nature wants, as 60 billion humans on this planet is just too many?  I don't like thinking about that, but nature does have a way of thinning populations in the human as well as animal kingdom.

Maybe this is all too heavy for a sunny Sunday afternoon, but it certainly gets me thinking!!

What do you think?  Would you let your kids play with toy guns?  Where do you think we are all going from here on in? :-? :-?

That IS a lot Lizzie.  

Yes and they all require food, water and shelter, along with clean air to breath!

Maybe....6.5 billion

[kris9128]

YES i would let my kids play with guns, be it cap cuns or air rifles or when they get older shotguns. cotrary to popular belief, guns are NOT DANGEROUS

[STMO123]

YES i would let my kids play with guns, be it cap cuns or air rifles or when they get older shotguns. cotrary to popular belief, guns are NOT DANGEROUS

Get down to Moss Side you!  

[Mr Skrunts]

YES i would let my kids play with guns, be it cap cuns or air rifles or when they get older shotguns. cotrary to popular belief, guns are NOT DANGEROUS

Totally Agree, it's the idiots that use them with no respect for other people

[FRE07962128]

I think you will find many adults who played with toy guns ( or even made them out of sticks) as kids didn't turn into warmongers -- and some of the warmongers weren't allowed to play with toys guns.

As skruntie says -- it's a lot to do with upbringing. And that is one aspect of family life that appears to have gone down the pan these days.

Just after I left full time education came the era of educational and moral freedom -- kids didn't have to attend classes if they didn't want to. Parents were first denied the right to discipline these kids. A clip around the ear from the local Bobby brought a lawsuit for assualt ( instead of, as in my day, another clip for deserving the first clip!!).

These kids are now the parents of today -- and their kids the unruly YOOF with no moral guidance or conscience

How absolutely right you are Holy Count!

The question is how can we now reverse the social fibre of our country? :-/ :-/

[kris9128]

YES i would let my kids play with guns, be it cap cuns or air rifles or when they get older shotguns. cotrary to popular belief, guns are NOT DANGEROUS

Get down to Moss Side you!  

I live just down the road from moss side mate and have lost many a good friend due to gun crime. but still stand by my beliefs that guns are NOT DANGEROUS.
it's the people that have ready access to them that are dangerous.
 1 simple easy test.
get 1 gun, load it and make ready. sit it on a table in a busy place (trafford centre ) leave it there for 12 mths and see how many people it injures/ kills. i would put money on it just sitting there gathering dust and not hurting a single person.
what we need to understand is thatv it is MAN that is the danger not some inanimate object, be it a gun/knife/ screwdriver etc etc.
i'm not making light of gun crime and sincerely appologise if i have upset anybody with my comments.
i have been brought up around weapons air rifles/ shot guns/ cross bows. compound bows. i can hold my hand on my heart and honestly say that i have NEVER killed another living thing with any of these weapons. at the end of the day it's all down to the person who is holding the weapon. NOT THE WEAPON ITSELF. rant over

[FRE07962128]

Rachel's lad has had toy guns since he was a toddler, he's now thirteen & doesn't carry a knife or the like.
Being a farmers lad, I grew up around guns from a very early age & i've owned several. It was instilled in me to respect & to know how to use them. I personally don't see a problem with toy guns, we can't go around removing everything we don't like. As you said " you remember them from the 60's" has your generation grew up blowing people away? No

I know what you are saying, but we were a generation living in a society sickened by a recent World War, which had followed on all too closely with earlier carnage. We also held respect for the "officers" of law & order, and for the older, battle scarred generation.

It is now 63 years since a truely major war, with UK losses of upwards of 2000 in a day.  Has the current generation, quite understandably, lost sight of the horrors of mass casualties and see shooting each other as just "a bit of fun" whilst advancing "the honour" of their clan / gang?  :-/  

All too many of them unfortunatly have been raised in households where discipline, respect, decency, and good manners has failed to exist for years.  

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I played with all sorts of guns as a kid cap guns ,machine guns pistols and rifles etc etc.
It is just PC gone mad Lizzie.
By the way Lizzie,there was no video nasties in victorian England but plenty of grisly murders.
I put it down to human nature be it both good or bad.

[FRE07962128]

YES i would let my kids play with guns, be it cap cuns or air rifles or when they get older shotguns. cotrary to popular belief, guns are NOT DANGEROUS

Get down to Moss Side you!  

I live just down the road from moss side mate and have lost many a good friend due to gun crime. but still stand by my beliefs that guns are NOT DANGEROUS.
it's the people that have ready access to them that are dangerous.
 1 simple easy test.
get 1 gun, load it and make ready. sit it on a table in a busy place (trafford centre ) leave it there for 12 mths and see how many people it injures/ kills. i would put money on it just sitting there gathering dust and not hurting a single person.
what we need to understand is thatv it is MAN that is the danger not some inanimate object, be it a gun/knife/ screwdriver etc etc.
i'm not making light of gun crime and sincerely appologise if i have upset anybody with my comments.
i have been brought up around weapons air rifles/ shot guns/ cross bows. compound bows. i can hold my hand on my heart and honestly say that i have NEVER killed another living thing with any of these weapons. at the end of the day it's all down to the person who is holding the weapon. NOT THE WEAPON ITSELF. rant over

That is the problem Kris, you are right!  Man, if not controlled, will take up arms if of the wrong frame of mind or trained to kill by the state.
Therefore without good political, state control, should we allow arms to be so readily available in our badly disciplined society? :-/