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[henryd]

Not sure I'd want to own a 1.4T, in something fairly heavy that Turbo will be working over-time.

I'd have concerns on the long term reliability of something so highly strung, rather than a say a 1.8 petrol which has to work less hard and no turbo to worry about.

Shows what little you know about Turbos 

It wont be working any harder than one on a V6, its delivering air to a set pressure, period.

The 1.4T is cracking engine with 140bhp and over boost, shifts these little cars along really well (New Astra is a few hundred kilos lighter than the J, god knows what was wrong with the one Broomies Mate mentions, must have been a lower output derivative with a 5 speed).

To put it into perspective, the 1.4T's I have driven were all doing less rpm at 70 than a 3.0 Omega would be doing in top.

I've driven the 1.4 T,they go bloody well although the one I drove needed a new motor at 30k miles,GM picked up the tab though which impressed me seeing car is a 10 plate and it happenned earlier this year

[tunnie]

Not sure I'd want to own a 1.4T, in something fairly heavy that Turbo will be working over-time.

I'd have concerns on the long term reliability of something so highly strung, rather than a say a 1.8 petrol which has to work less hard and no turbo to worry about.

Shows what little you know about Turbos 

It wont be working any harder than one on a V6, its delivering air to a set pressure, period.

The 1.4T is cracking engine with 140bhp and over boost, shifts these little cars along really well (New Astra is a few hundred kilos lighter than the J, god knows what was wrong with the one Broomies Mate mentions, must have been a lower output derivative with a 5 speed).

To put it into perspective, the 1.4T's I have driven were all doing less rpm at 70 than a 3.0 Omega would be doing in top.

I know Turbo's no different to V6, but my point is compared to non-Turbo'd version.

It's all very nice when they are brand new, but 80k miles down the road, it's been dealer butcher serviced all its life and when that Turbo has been spinning up and down for 80,000 miles. It's an extra item to fail? See enough Turbo failures with diesels, so for me it's just another item to go wrong and expensive to replace.

Given choice between a 1.4T and a 1.6/1.8/2.0 I'd take the non-Turbo version any day 

[Marks DTM Calib]

Cant recall the last turbo I saw fail, possibly a Land Rover one many moons ago, uber reliable items.

And what you say about the dealer butchered servicing applies to any of the listed engines. 

Hard fact is that the smaller blown engines are very reliable, have the same bhp and torque as NA's with 50% more cc, use less fuel and weigh less.

[Diamond Black Geezer]

I want a 1.4 Turbo Omega 

[aaronjb]

Small cc blown engines are, sadly, the future.. although they can be very fun in the right application (say a Westfield/Caterham).

If you want a V8, buy one now before nobody makes them anymore (Except America, they'll never give them up..  )

[Marks DTM Calib]

I want a 1.4 Turbo Omega 

As much power and torque as the 2.0 16V........

[Diamond Black Geezer]

I want a 1.4 Turbo Omega 

As much power and torque as the 2.0 16V........

That idea lasted well! I'll stick to my big ol' V6, then!    Haha! Thanks Mark 

On a more serious note, I'm pleased and thoroughly impressed that Vx have shaved about 200kg off the weight of the Astra, it's definitely the direction car companies should have been going in for years now. Maybe the Landy Disco weighing 3 ton was a wake-up call?! Lighter cars means only better ability in all areas, economy, speed, safety, the lot. Time was on the Mk 1 Astra the 1300 was the only engine you ever needed, the best combination of car to engine I've ever known. Did a million to the gallon, went like stink if you wanted it to and handled well because the body weighed less than most feather pillows.

[baggers]

"1 litre petrol turbo"
Three cylinders, .......... no thanks.
Great if you want to knock around town.  Wait until your fully loaded and want to set off on a very steep hill, then you'll see how good they are.  I'd be amazed if there was enough low down power to get you going without burning the clutch.

[Sir Tigger KC]

"1 litre petrol turbo"
Three cylinders, .......... no thanks.
Great if you want to knock around town.  Wait until your fully loaded and want to set off on a very steep hill, then you'll see how good they are.  I'd be amazed if there was enough low down power to get you going without burning the clutch.

Prepare to be amazed as they will become better and the norm. 

[henryd]

"1 litre petrol turbo"
Three cylinders, .......... no thanks.
Great if you want to knock around town.  Wait until your fully loaded and want to set off on a very steep hill, then you'll see how good they are.  I'd be amazed if there was enough low down power to get you going without burning the clutch.

Prepare to be amazed as they will become better and the norm. 

Aye,and who would have thought that an electric road going car that could hit 155mph would be here and available to buy

[Andy B]

"1 litre petrol turbo"
Three cylinders, .......... no thanks.
Great if you want to knock around town.  Wait until your fully loaded and want to set off on a very steep hill, then you'll see how good they are.  I'd be amazed if there was enough low down power to get you going without burning the clutch.

Like Prettywood 

My 700cc turbo'd Smart is as you suggest, great around town, but lacking in grunt on the motorway

[BazaJT]

I think most turbo failures used to-possibly still do-came from drivers not knowing/caring how to use them,i.e.ragging them something cruel from the off and after a good thrashing just turning engine off instead of letting turbo spool down some before doing so.Whether I'd trust a cheap turbo'd car because of not knowing how it'd been treated I don't know.

[baggers]

I hired a VW Caddy that wouldn't set off on a steep hill.  It was just like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFpa26h5Hp8

[baggers]

"Like Prettywood  "

That would be testing for most, but it was worse than that.

[btc]

I hired a VW Caddy that wouldn't set off on a steep hill.  It was just like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFpa26h5Hp8

Sounds exactly like the Peugeot 308 I tried yesterday 3 cylinder turbo horrid thing